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273066.22 in reply to 273066.20
Date: 8/22/2015 11:00:33 AM
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Yes if you plan to stay at the lowest level all your BB career then their gone. But as fast as you start winning more or promote they instantly start to generate money.
Some of them, some of them.

They will also keep doing so for as long as your in this game.
If you add salary to your team instead of seats the money truly is gone.
That is true if you don't count something little like WINNING. (y) That's what players do for you. And as Lemonshire points out, that leads to increased revenue, too.

Unless you buy trainees that you increase the value on by training them.
And again, training is at the expense of competing your best to win games. The disregard for winning games that you show isn't just you. Don't get me wrong. It is how the game is built, a sports sim that isn't about winning.


So if you plan on promoting anytime in the next three or so season the money is well invested as it will help you stay at that higher level.
It is well invested in the season you promote. It didn't do anything for you before that, when the seats were empty and you didn't have the money available for better players or a better trainer. Again, don't get me wrong -- I understand a big arena is appealing when you promote -- but the losses in the new league will mount up and you won't stay up without the players. The balance can never go too far toward the arena or you don't have the players you need. That's my point -- there is a severe penalty for overbuilding the arena.


If you take a look at what teams that demote back down again the season after they promoted it is no big chock to see that it in a big majority of times it is the once that haven't prepared their arena.

Or more likely they followed the crowd and they had a big arena and didn't have the horses.

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273066.24 in reply to 273066.22
Date: 8/23/2015 8:14:55 PM
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Unless you buy trainees that you increase the value on by training them.
And again, training is at the expense of competing your best to win games. The disregard for winning games that you show isn't just you. Don't get me wrong. It is how the game is built, a sports sim that isn't about winning.


You really have so much to learn about this game. What's amazing is the amount of guys in these forums trying to help you learn and you just keep resisting. My ENTIRE career I have relied on trainees as a core part of my team. I am not here to tout my own success, but considering I have been to the finals in 11 of 21 seasons playing this game, I can confidently state you can not only prioritize winning, but actually win while training players.

This past season I promoted from D2 while relying heavily on a $12K trainee, and a $7K trainee.


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273066.26 in reply to 273066.25
Date: 8/23/2015 10:48:38 PM
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think it becomes too expensive to train out of position in D1, but I agree in general with this statement (I trained out of position 1 week out of 4 so far). .


I totally agree...and full disclosure, I did my out of position training during a tanking season. There is no way I could train out of position with these players and compete against these great D1 teams, let alone beat them.

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273066.28 in reply to 273066.27
Date: 8/23/2015 11:47:01 PM
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Yes, I agree that investing in the arena while still being competitive is the key balance, which is a far cry from an unqualified "build as big and as fast as possible."

MOST NEW USERS DON"T BUILD … Teams lack the seats to get to the next level. They are being out-earned by bigger arenas.

What I am trying to say is "too much arena" is bad while "too small arena" is bad too.

Woohoo, it looks like we have agreement all the way around, although we all have a different way of stating it. Now see ... that wasn’t so painful, was it?

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273066.30 in reply to 273066.11
Date: 8/24/2015 5:11:17 AM
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I played BB for 20+ seasons, quit and now I'm back since 4-5 seasons. I'm currently playing at Brazil II division, my arena has just been upgraded to 7,7k (from 7,1k) and I usually make of the average revenue of rivals who have arenas as big as 15k and thus have spent millions and millions more than me to end up making virtually the same money as I do. Of course I think an arena 7,7k big is not big enough, but it is more than big enough for a team which is 4-5 seasons old and plays at a II division.

So actually I'm writing this to thank the users who keep repeating ad eternum that newcomers should expand their arenas as top priority. This kind of advice makes my life here much easier, since it keeps new managers burying their hard earned money on seats they don't need instead of investing in trainees, players etc.

TRIVIA

a 10k arena can make more money than a 20k arena due to the:

a) weather
b) cheerleaders
c) manager's charisma
d) tickets' prices

Last edited by LA-Bernspin at 8/24/2015 5:18:16 AM

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