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8324.19 in reply to 8324.18
Date: 11/30/2007 8:34:03 PM
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What about Jerry West though? Great player, great GM...

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8324.21 in reply to 8324.20
Date: 12/1/2007 1:37:29 AM
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Agreed. There have been plenty of great GMs and coaches that were once great players, but when you reach the point where you are destroying your legacy and people forget what a great player you were it is time to hang it up.

Isiah was one of my favorite players of all time once. Now I think I might actually want to fight him.

As a Canadian I will give you our best example. Wayne Gretzky is coaching the Phoenix Coyotes and they are brutal. However I am willing to give him a bit of time. If in 3 or 4 years they still suck then he needs to quit and never ever coach again. I would be willing to see him as a GM, but once he has failed as a coach he needs to stop before people forget he was the greatest player to ever play the game.

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Date: 12/1/2007 2:54:26 AM
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Agreed. There have been plenty of great GMs and coaches that were once great players, but when you reach the point where you are destroying your legacy and people forget what a great player you were it is time to hang it up.

As a Canadian I will give you our best example. . .


As a Hoosier, I will give you our best example.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Bird)

And his coaching record:

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Bird#Coaching_record)

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8324.24 in reply to 8324.22
Date: 12/1/2007 4:58:18 AM
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I don't understand your reply.

I was giving an example of a coach who needs to improve soon or quit to save his legacy and you gave me an example of one who succeeded. (and as I already mentioned, there are plenty of successful former players in coaching and front office positions.)


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Date: 12/1/2007 1:51:47 PM
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I realise what you were saying. Just throwing out an example of someone from Isaiah's era that knew what he was doing and quit while he was ahead.

More than anything, I was playing to the multitude of Celtics fans on here.

I'll quit trolling now.

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Date: 12/1/2007 3:36:24 PM
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I don't dispute that one bit. The Pacers were good when Larry got there. But they weren't winning any titles (in fact, right before Bird retired, he helped knock them out of the playoffs two seasons in a row). When Bird arrived, the team was already a playoff team, occasionally making it to the Eastern Conference finals. But within three years, Bird got them to the finals.

Let's not forget that when Bird quit as Pacers coach, Isaiah Thomas took over. In Thomas's first 3 seasons the Pacers all made the playoffs, but they never made it out of the first round. Following those three seasons, the Pacers made Bird president, and Larry almost immediately fired Isaiah.

edit: no need to discuss Ron Artest.

Edited by darykjozef (12/1/2007 3:37:19 PM CET)

Last edited by darykjozef at 12/1/2007 3:37:19 PM

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Date: 1/4/2008 7:57:06 PM
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Good comparison, Kingsblade. Right now i find it hard to believe that Gretzky could ever become "hated" (in Canada), but when I look at what Isiah has done to his rep since he retired as a player....ouch!

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