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273066.16 in reply to 273066.15
Date: 8/18/2015 2:58:20 PM
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Ah yes, that makes sense.
My reasoning was indeed a bit tenuous, but I thought I had read a thread a while back that suggested how cheaper bleachers could draw fans out of the lower tier.

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273066.19 in reply to 273066.17
Date: 8/21/2015 9:39:42 PM
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[1] The thing with empty seats though is that it can easily be changed into filled seats by just changing your ticket prices.
I have always given the advice to build your arena for the next step first. While training players for example and when your ready to aim for promotion you will have good use of the extra seats in higher game income and you can field an as competitive team as possible.
[2] If you plan to buy all your players though you'll need to save a lot for it to work. But seeing the prices on the market that would be utterly stupid.
[3] If you add seats while trying to promote you won't be able to field as high team salary and will be in a worse situation for promotion.

[1] The money you spent for those seats is just as gone, while four seats at $12 versus two seats at $24 nets you no more than before. So lowering ticket prices just to try to fill an overbuilt arena still isn't a convincing argument for overbuilding the arena.
[2] Well, yes, I agree. "They" claim there are many ways to compete, but they have surely taken away that one by inflating the transfer list so badly ... dead as a dodo bird.
[3] Bingo! I agree again. You can be competitive OR you can build your arena. That is something I have said for a long time, this game puts winning basketball games behind a lot of other bells and whistles.

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273066.22 in reply to 273066.20
Date: 8/22/2015 11:00:33 AM
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Yes if you plan to stay at the lowest level all your BB career then their gone. But as fast as you start winning more or promote they instantly start to generate money.
Some of them, some of them.

They will also keep doing so for as long as your in this game.
If you add salary to your team instead of seats the money truly is gone.
That is true if you don't count something little like WINNING. (y) That's what players do for you. And as Lemonshire points out, that leads to increased revenue, too.

Unless you buy trainees that you increase the value on by training them.
And again, training is at the expense of competing your best to win games. The disregard for winning games that you show isn't just you. Don't get me wrong. It is how the game is built, a sports sim that isn't about winning.


So if you plan on promoting anytime in the next three or so season the money is well invested as it will help you stay at that higher level.
It is well invested in the season you promote. It didn't do anything for you before that, when the seats were empty and you didn't have the money available for better players or a better trainer. Again, don't get me wrong -- I understand a big arena is appealing when you promote -- but the losses in the new league will mount up and you won't stay up without the players. The balance can never go too far toward the arena or you don't have the players you need. That's my point -- there is a severe penalty for overbuilding the arena.


If you take a look at what teams that demote back down again the season after they promoted it is no big chock to see that it in a big majority of times it is the once that haven't prepared their arena.

Or more likely they followed the crowd and they had a big arena and didn't have the horses.

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273066.24 in reply to 273066.22
Date: 8/23/2015 8:14:55 PM
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Unless you buy trainees that you increase the value on by training them.
And again, training is at the expense of competing your best to win games. The disregard for winning games that you show isn't just you. Don't get me wrong. It is how the game is built, a sports sim that isn't about winning.


You really have so much to learn about this game. What's amazing is the amount of guys in these forums trying to help you learn and you just keep resisting. My ENTIRE career I have relied on trainees as a core part of my team. I am not here to tout my own success, but considering I have been to the finals in 11 of 21 seasons playing this game, I can confidently state you can not only prioritize winning, but actually win while training players.

This past season I promoted from D2 while relying heavily on a $12K trainee, and a $7K trainee.


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273066.26 in reply to 273066.25
Date: 8/23/2015 10:48:38 PM
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think it becomes too expensive to train out of position in D1, but I agree in general with this statement (I trained out of position 1 week out of 4 so far). .


I totally agree...and full disclosure, I did my out of position training during a tanking season. There is no way I could train out of position with these players and compete against these great D1 teams, let alone beat them.

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