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that is very stupid then. If someone who was bought then has a new manager so if the new manager does not post his skills then it should not be allowed.

why is that stupid, if you want have secret player skill, you had to train then else there will be ever people who know it.

that is very stupid then. If someone who was bought then has a new manager so if the new manager does not post his skills then it should not be allowed.

Again, once the skills are out there for anyone to see, there is, nor will there be, something to prevent users from recording those skills and using them as they see fit.

The BBAPI does not allow mining of TLed player skills, FWIW, but any manual recording is allowed (and unpoliceable).

Again this is not about what should or should not but about what can or cannot be done. If you bought a player, everybody could see his skill, everybody was able to write them down and then it is up to such a person who they would sent such na info. Like NT coach etc.

Posting in forum is another thing, not really ethical. But you can't realyl blame soemthing posting something like "I just sold such player (skills) for ....".

Knowing opponents players stats is overrated.

There's actually an interesting point buried in here somewhere. There's a difference between the initial point about enthusiasm and player skills on the TL. When you buy/list a player, you are implicitly agreeing that his skills be made public, either so that you can make an informed purchase, or to convince another manager to spend money on him.

However, with enthusiasm, you have no control over whether your opponent reveals *your own* enthusiasm setting, since both managers are aware of each other's settings. This would be like your opponent revealing the stats of a player who has never been on the TL (of course, normally managers aren't aware of those stats, but I think the closer parallel would be an NT coach revealing this info, which is taken without the manager's consent).

An argument can be made that this is minimally useful info (although I for one would always like to know whether my opponent's previous game was a TIE-TIE or Normal-Normal), and I'm not sure if just making everything totally public is a solution to this. But it's an interesting question...

if someone wants to keep their own records thats fine. But only the user who owns the player should be allowed to show their stats. If i sell the a player today i should not be allowed to show his stats to the entire community tomorrow. That is all i am saying.

why not, i am still proud of some of my old trainees and sometimes chare their old stats, i see nothing wrong with it ;)

Also i got pretty much palyer stats from my league in my chat protokoll, because most transfers get spotted from someone and discussed - isn't a huge advantage and i normally was to lazy to look for it.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/22/2009 3:06:31 PM

then explain to me the point of not having all the skills shown for all players if we can freely transfer there skills to one or another.

All i'm saying and i don't see what the problem is with this. Is that only the coach who owns the player can show his stats. If you want to talk about your old trainee thats fine as long as you don't show there stats. If the stats are hidden then there is no reason to make public because an old coach wants to show off how he trained him or a rival coach wants the whole league to know who this team has now.

Is it a huge difference in how you play against a certain team most likely not but it does help if the player has a weakness or two.