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Gully and Zeus, anything practical we can be focusing on to help with NT and U21's over the remaining weeks of the season to prep for next season?

I think you just shot to the title of the most patronising player in England, quite a feat I assure you.

You have never seen it because you never looked.

No actually that isn't true. You assume I don't know what I am talking about just like you assume that for pretty much everyone you speak to on the forums. Actually I could give you from our offsite records every single drafted player in the English community for the last 3 years with stats potential 4 and up. I could give you that because - I put it together!

I'm poor and building my arena, so I can't be as generous!

Lose the chip on your shoulder about this. I've read what you post on the other forums and you wave this at everyone who has a bigger arena than you as if they are supposed to feel sorry for you. It's not like we all had the same start is it...

I haven't been around 20-21 seasons without winning anything either. In 15-16 seasons we will see if that holds true for me too or if I will end up winless as well. ;)

Is that supposed to be a dig? If so it is laughable, I dont really care if I win or not, keeping my players fit for the NT takes precedence over winning for me. What interests me is that you actually spent time looking up my team, how long I am active, how my teams have done in order to get ammunition to put me down on the forum to win a point? Stalk much?

Oh and I skipped the babble about training after you suggested that IS can pop 3 times in 4 weeks at 23... lol

Forgive me, but you have started to throw baseless accusations around and I have stood up for myself which I rarely do. Now I am going to do what I promised a few people I would do. Leave this thread well alone because you are turning it into a circus.

Last edited by LA-Vecx at 12/9/2014 10:47:40 AM

At the end of the day, the main concern of this thread is the lack of NT guards coming through.

Haven't seen much here that offers insight into why that's happened or, more to the point, what can be done to sort it out.

It seems to me that our players are developed brilliantly to u21 level and then just go missing. I'd argue aged 22-24 players should be good to lead promotion charges from m div 3 to the EBBL. Or sold off to fund arena building.

At 25 and above, they should be centerpieces of staying in the EBBL or sold off (at which point EBBL teams should be all over them).

And EBBL teams need NT players to compete for titles.




Last edited by Elmacca at 12/9/2014 11:25:44 AM

I am tempted to drop out and train another 2, but I would like to enjoy my two at least for a couple more seasons.

You, more than anyone, have done your bit for the NT.

Last edited by Elmacca at 12/9/2014 11:27:45 AM

I'd do it again in a snap if I knew Innes and Mac would stay in England

I was planning to post earlier today, but decided to go about my own business and leave people to sort out their differences.

Now I see I don't need to post as Elmacca has very eloquently said what I was thinking. So thanks to him.

If I do need to reiterate:

At the end of the day, the main concern of this thread is the lack of NT guards coming through.

Haven't seen much here that offers insight into why that's happened or, more to the point, what can be done to sort it out.

It seems to me that our players are developed brilliantly to u21 level and then just go missing. I'd argue aged 22-24 players should be good to lead promotion charges from m div 3 to the EBBL. Or sold off to fund arena building.

At 25 and above, they should be centerpieces of staying in the EBBL or sold off (at which point EBBL teams should be all over them).

And EBBL teams need NT players to compete for titles.

Lets just stick to debating England's problems rather than our own with each other. I hate to take sides in this little issue, but since Vecx is threatening to walk I feel I have to.

I first talked to Vecx many seasons ago, in chat, while he was going through his 0-44 stretch to get to d3. I've known about his two trainees since he bought them. I've spent time with him watching countless u21 and NT games over a period of many seasons. First when Morwood was coach, then when Vecx took over, and of course during my own period as NT coach. His insights into the game/training etc are priceless. I'd like to think he gets something from our chats too. We can't afford to lose his input in this thread and elsewhere.

We really don't need Mourinho-like bollocks about Wenger being a specialist in failure. Nor do we need the distraction in this thread.

I think if one thing is clear, the EBBL isn't the only place we can find arrogance.

I'd do it again in a snap if I knew Innes and Mac would stay in England

I can't afford them.

Trouble is they are B3-knock out level players so the only way to guarantee that is to keep them on your roster, as there is a good chance that some B3 contender with mega deep pockets will snap them up. Look what Gazza cost Mikramus, and he was 31...