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From: JohnnyB

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Date: 1/27/2010 1:59:24 PM
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Yes but again the champion/tournament winner playing on BBB too. Why not have the chance to be competitive?

About the reality. Hellas is relative small country (around 10-11M) but Greek NT's (youngsters too) are very successful internationally. (Last summer where 2nd on U18 world, 1st in Europe U19). Dont forget that Greek NT has won USA in Japan without having a single NBA player on the squat.

Actually the best team in Europe last 15-20 years (Euroleague winers, Final 4 etc) its a Greek team (Panathinaikos).

So the reality its not what you are saying.

From: JohnnyB

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Think about it more like: the level of fan interest is about the same in every country. There is only enough interest in every country to support 16 division I teams, 64 division II teams, etc.


I disagree with this. I think the number of teams that are registered does reflect an abstract metric of fan interest relative to BB.





My country have only 800.000 population, 70+ teams USA has 300M. So by percentage the interest in my country about the game is bigger than yours.

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Date: 1/27/2010 2:08:47 PM
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So, I can not understand how the TV/merchandising/arena incomes are the same in Spain and in a country with only 23 teams.



I also do not know why there are no teams from Spain in the top 10 of the world. Sure, competition is tougher, but the USA got 2 teams, also being one of the best and largest countries. Germany got one, Hellas got one. Portugal got one. Those are all big countries. Maybe it's not the system, maybe it's the manager's culture. We saw Italian teams being dominant a few seasons ago, but then their competition got tougher. This lead to managers strengthen their line-ups, instead of expanding arenas. Germany was doing the opposite, and increased their revenue by a lot, they caught up with Italy in no time.



Managers culture????

I lost by one, 104-105, to the Number 1º of the world in his court with my entire team in respectable game shape. (19970605)
I had that game shape because I didnt want to lose ACBB league, and if I want to be competitive in the B3, Im forced to pass cup games, wich means that Im forced to overplay my guys resulting in demential game shapes.
There is one way to play the B3 in good game shape and be able to win it, playing the relegation PO of my league. But if this happens I wont have the incomes that people from easy leagues has, and I will be less cometitive for the future.

They can TIE all their league/cup matches, they can train what they want and they have huge incomes because they have always positive records (most of the time full wins). Also they are not forced to pay huge salaries while they dont play B3 and they can spend the rest of the year saving money.

You are playing with maxed out prices in a sold out 11k arena in Spain, I guess that's where you lack of income comes from. You might start to expand your arena.


If he invest in stadium he goes straight to the 2nd division, he has to sell actives to do it. Our current money is close to 0 (huge competition forces us to spend all we have to remain competitive). I know that playing in Cyprus with a roster that costs weekly less than 150k while you save money allows you to build your stadium in 2 seasons but this doesnt happen in Spain, where most of the top players started in a Vth division.

If a great player starts in a small paradise and optimizes his strategy with the training and his wages the time he doesnt play the B3 he will be able to dominate easily the game. Luckily we dont have lots of elite managers in little countries, is easier to see them in huge comunities, we are more, statistically we have more type of players, but if a guy optimizates his strategy in a little country we could say good bye to the B3 for 10-15 seasons in a row (until he gets bored).

Also the HCA in 1/4 finals or 1/8 finals is something that I really cant understand. Today, most of the top teams can easily beat anyone of the world in his court. I really thought that this year I had a team to fight for the B3, but in this conditions is imposible for me, unless I have court advantage in key matches and good game shapes (not compiting in my country league).

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I had that game shape because I didnt want to lose ACBB league, and if I want to be competitive in the B3, Im forced to pass cup games, wich means that Im forced to overplay my guys resulting in demential game shapes.


I don't follow here - B3 games are in arcade mode, so why would that impact anything?

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Date: 1/27/2010 2:13:55 PM
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Game shape and enthusiasm counts in B3 matches. We need them at the top to be competitive.

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Date: 1/27/2010 2:15:49 PM
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Game shape and enthusiasm counts in B3 matches. We need them at the top to be competitive.


OK, so you throw Cup games for enthusiasm/GS purposes? I'm not getting at something, I'm just asking because I don't understand.

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From: JohnnyB

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Date: 1/27/2010 2:24:43 PM
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It doesnt change the fact that a small country can be power house on sports. If they give you way more income than us then that it will be disappear, and BBB will be 5-6 countries game.

Anyway if you want some advantage on that they can use champions league format. They can play the 4 best teams there from countries like England Italy Spain Germany have 4 teams to compete there, where the Hellas for example (being weaker domestic league) have 2. Playing on the Champions league teams have some serious income.



Last edited by JohnnyB at 1/27/2010 2:25:02 PM

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