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265056.14 in reply to 265056.11
Date: 11/21/2014 2:50:12 AM
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yer ive only ever heard of matchup zones in terms of hybrid zones.

The only reference on the internet that I can find to the text string search of "2-3 zone man to man hybrid" is on NBA2K14
Do you have a link or a reference that you can provide us? I am very curious about it - it perhaps has a different name that it is referred to. Maybe you are referring to the Point-zone, or 2-3 pressure zone.

Also im curious to know how you came to the conclusion that BB is running a Syracuse Orangemen 2-3 zone?

Either way, you are asking for an alternative to the standard 2-3 zone - I think it is a good idea but perhaps we need to be careful about throwing out the current 2-3 zone as being useful.

2-3 zone. But thing is it need great guards to make it work also great Sb center .
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IN BB that's a quick trip to the poor house(debt).


Sorta! but not really. People assume that in order to have a great SB center, that they have to take their current $150k salary C, and add another $100k salary worth of SB onto him in order to get him to work in a 2-3 zone. But this is not the case.

Use case - (and sorry to brag about my own player) - (32954007) - Currently pulling 12.0 average rating for this season (and averaging 2.9 blocks per game). $11k salary (although salary calc on current stats is probably closer to $15-$16k)
Compare this to the other U21 team members for Australia - eg: (32053428) - Pulls 12.5 game rating, has a $33k salary.
and same with all the other guys.

So yer, whilst i like the idea of an alternative 2-3 zone, id like to (and I've always said this) see the current 2-3 zone explicitly proven that its broken first, and I truly don't believe it is.

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265056.15 in reply to 265056.14
Date: 11/21/2014 3:18:54 AM
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Someone posted a link copied from site early in the thread to explain it. I explained it again to manon. I don't know anything about a 2k video games, I looked that up and it based on real life from what I have seen.. I know of if it because I played basketball for years not because of any sim video game. I posted how this hybrid could work to improve 2-3. BB can make the right adjustments on 2-3 that we have to day. To get it to work.

The 2-3 on bb In my viewing is same as syracuse Orangemen 2-3 zone. If don't you have good guards or good sb center you cant be effective ,the one that are somewhat, I see have good stamina , good guards and good center/pf expensive teams. I understand levels of play will play a huge factor. I'm just speaking over all. "the highest level".. When syracuse lost they lost to a strong inside attack and mid range game. ( please see duke 2014 games as reference if you can) .. just like LI on BB. and that is how you lose on BB in same fashion. Some times brutally moe than reality

I do think its broken, I think its too expensive to run and needs to be adjusted. Like the guy said about tactics in another thread. Balance players is the key in all tactics. So if I make 2-3 defense, I wont have a 3-2 defense or man to man. So., I think we can come to the point of cost to afford which you did state and save everyone uneeded long paragraph by me..


Also This does not have to happen tonight or next week but its something bb should be thinking about. 2-3z just does not hold together in games. When it fail, it fails big time .. There is no come back. I don't know any other tactic to date on BB that's does that. I have 14 season under my belt that 3 real years going on 4 .If its not working on the lowest level versus bots , Then I don't even have to do anymore research.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/21/2014 3:37:08 AM

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265056.18 in reply to 265056.15
Date: 11/21/2014 7:23:48 AM
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i dont see a link, i do see a post which says you copied it from a link, id like to see the link please so that i can understand this defensive setup.

2-3 zone doesn't work for most people against LI because they try to use stock standard player setups with it. They believe they need guards with a high level of OD and bigs with a high level of ID. AND they will think they need to use a normal SF at the SF position. duh!.
anyways i won't hijac the thread into a discussion about why I think 2-3 zone is broken. BB have come out and said that its not broken and i personally have proven to myself that it isn't, so im cool with that

I still do like ur suggesiton of an alternative 2-3 zone though, send through that link i wanna see it and understand it.