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old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 3/28/2014 4:05:32 PM

I have a hard time convincing myself to draft a 19yo. You can buy an 18yo for 50k and make him a dream 19yo draftee in a year.
the worst thing about the draft is that even an A+ can look unattractive.

old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know
old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know
Sorry, but I don't buy this, although you used many subjective words which could be interpreted different ways.

Old players are generally cheaper than younger players. Would I spend the same amount on a 38 YO vs a 28 YO with the same skill set? Probably not.

A player CAN play at a high level his whole career, but the question is how well. If I'm in the highest league in, let's say USA, and I start training an 18 YO from the start there, sure I can put him in and he'll get minutes, will he be jacking 40+ pts a game? Probably not. As a result, age does matter, because the older you are, the more skills could have been trained during that time period. A 19 YO only has 1 potential year of training under his belt, while a 28 YO has 10 potential years of training. Players start degrading after 32, and you start losing the value from them, age does matter.

Your personal experience of 35-36 YO putting up 40 a game is great and all, but I assume you'd like to climb up to league 1? That probably won't be the case in higher leagues.

No talent level work the same for everybody.

I have no idea what you mean by the above quote.

It is true that some players perform and some don't there are many hidden traits that no one knows how they exactly work (i.e. aggression).

I think a 18 yr old can put up big, big games in the top leagues. I think the catch is the exp gap. I thinks there's alot hidden traits. I don't think league level out right make big of difference in the players play, harder opponents don't mean the player is going to play bad or better. I have seen player from to p league go to lower league and still play terrible worst than a 2500 player with better skills.

as far as aggression. it maybe true but I think a lot skills in tactic need the proper balance for the players to be any good. I don't think age is much of a seal the deal factor. Because we can still win league with any age group.

so in small. player skill balance for the position , the right tactics and then the hidden trait. Let keep in not every player is going to have the right amount of skill to play everything(tactic). A lot of that falls on his team mates. That's what I think s far . Not saying its a 100% fact thing..

I think a 18 yr old can put up big, big games in the top leagues.

He absolutely can, if the opponent is playing scrubs and throwing the game to put their best lineup out for a Cup match. Otherwise, no, he can't. But feel free to show examples of 18 year olds putting up big games against legitimate "top league" lineups to support your point.

I don't think the league level itself causes players to play better, but if you put a team of 3k scrubs against an average NBBA team's starting lineup, they will get crushed. For the most part, an 18 year old cannot make an impact for a top (NBBA/DII) team. They just don't have the skills yet.

As far as hidden skills go, the only somewhat confirmed hidden trait so far is aggressiveness. It is the quality that causes a play to foul (and possibly draw fouls). Some people think they are others: consistency, injury proneness, etc. (I don't know if they actually exist)

In the top three divisions the 18-19 year olds are going to be benchwarmers. In D.IV if the rookie is really skilled they can make an impact on a bad team. In D.V rookies can play big minutes and contribute.

There are 18-19 yr's old in top league that are very very good in play. Some have went one to be starters for those top teams. Now im not saying line the whole team with 18-19 yrs olds and your going to the win the Nbba, , Now that would be false, I have spoke on that many times, the draft can not work in that fashion for a top team in it success.. at same time we cant say it impossible and can never happen.( a top be success with a whole roster of youth.)

At same what I come to understand is a group of draft pick wont matter in top league because the exp and skill gap.

But If you do if you find one good 18/19 yr old and train him the right way just one a very good one.,He will be putting up big games in top league. it has happened and can happen. That's not myth it has happened 15ppg in top league is very good for 18 yr old. Im not going to name, names. because that redirecting the topic. To advertising. But we both know a lot top team are buying 1-2 good young players. It has nothing with training extempt because those teams, don't truly need exemption money. The roster is already filled with players 200K or better what good will exempt do?

Then there's factors like game shape. speed training.proper player build, all these favor the younger player not the older. Because the younger can and will be better than that older guy( a new starter in 3 season time with better skills too).The 18 yrs old will have good games in top league. I'm not saying 32ppg and 11 triple doubles, let not get carried away in the matter.. Im saying they can have good games and have big game in top league.. 13pts 5reb 4 ast is a big for a 18 yr old in top league./ That;s huge

Because if you do the numbers he would be 22ppt 9-10reb 8ast in lower league( now his team mate matter, in this wild guess of ppg). I think this why a lot of top manager are playing top dollar forr 1-2 very good trainee. Before no reason to buy them in top league. because those player don't qual any success to start. but if build around him while team is whining down. it make a lot of good sence.

In small It depends on training and how you set him up and his team mates. his success depends on you.

True... I think it fall on his surrounding cast of players. In order to play well and do well, he will need the right elements to suceed as you train him into the formula of the team.

Some players will just do much better than other in this aspect. You have to find the right 18 yrs old player and train him to be the leader.