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271644.112 in reply to 271644.101
Date: 7/31/2015 5:10:39 AM
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Playing as PG shouldn't be big problem because he can play in defence on different position.
When player is great in defence and weak in attack it will be work only if his profits in defence is higher than his loss in attack. I doubt you have enough compensation. You want to reduced opponent's attack to 4 players but you set only 4 players in your own attack. So you need to fight to retrieve something what you gave up without fight.
Presented numbers don't convince me. Experiment was made in lower division. If you need 16 ID + 18 SB in 3rd division, then how high should they be in 1st division? 25 ID + 30 SB?
Maybe skill scale works from higher to lower division, but for sure it doesn't work from lower to higher. In lower division you can train outside shooting for 32yo C, who has JR=1 and manage enthusiasm and gameshape better than opponents and win easily. I checked in buzzer-manager that since season 24 you played practically only RNG. And after few seasons most of your opponents still don't use GPD against you. So I doubt that they are demanding challenge.
Block is my favorite action in real basketball. But it doesn't work in BB.

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271644.113 in reply to 271644.112
Date: 7/31/2015 5:26:11 AM
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You still failed to see the main point. The game engine decides which player to avoid shooting against based on defense (at least to a large extend), not SB as you stated earlier in this post.
You dont need 16 ID in third league, right, yet Haek was not designed to be a third league player but to play NT level.
You still did not present any facts that support your claims while completely ignoring or not understanding the facts presented by others.
That SB does work in BB has been shown by Manon and others, who, by the way, where more successful with it that you are with your team (since you are looking down on third league managers).

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Date: 7/31/2015 5:49:42 AM
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Every important tittle in BB was won without SB. And there is no single example with SB. It is fact.
When Manon won few games he had guards with 150-180k salary or something like that, who are hard to maintain if you don't play in micronation.

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Date: 7/31/2015 5:55:14 AM
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Every important tittle in BB was won without SB.


Same goes for JR probably.

And because SB was disregarded on a global scale. A year ago there was maybe just a handful players with more than 14 SB.


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271644.116 in reply to 271644.112
Date: 7/31/2015 5:57:46 AM
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Playing as PG shouldn't be big problem because he can play in defence on different position.
When player is great in defence and weak in attack it will be work only if his profits in defence is higher than his loss in attack. I doubt you have enough compensation. You want to reduced opponent's attack to 4 players but you set only 4 players in your own attack. So you need to fight to retrieve something what you gave up without fight.

Good point. But...

An élite defender like Haek guards the first offensive opponent option. A weak scorer like Haek is the last offensive option of his team: in fact he tends to pass the ball instead of try to find the basket.
Opponent's team has 4 other options, but not the best 4 and Haek's team has 4 other options but the best 4.

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271644.117 in reply to 271644.114
Date: 7/31/2015 8:07:49 AM
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Every important tittle in BB was won without SB. And there is no single example with SB. It is fact.


Indeed.

Did you know that all important races where won by horses in 1890 and none by cars?
Did not prevent people to start building better cars though, you probably wouldnt have done so ;)

Last edited by Robard at 7/31/2015 8:09:15 AM

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271644.118 in reply to 271644.109
Date: 7/31/2015 8:21:46 AM
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That's all right. It's going right over several other heads as well. Don't worry about it.

I see Manon has backtracked. At least he seems to get it, even if he doesn't want to admit it.

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Date: 7/31/2015 8:31:55 AM
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Still you are saying there is NO data.
Exactly. Not even any analysis, no hypothesis stated and tested, no comparing and contrasting of strategies, no controls of variables while other variables are tested ... just dogged opinion.

But the scaling works for me.
And at the lower levels, so would numerous other strategies, probably even many of them better than scaling down from D1/B3. That's what I've been saying all along. And people come on and argue with me, saying that many different approaches would work at the lower levels. I have to wonder if any of them ever noticed that they are saying the same thing I am. I have to wonder if they stop reading at "Mike Franks" and start arguing at that very moment. Even a couple of guys who I have seen write intelligently in the forums have done that here.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 7/31/2015 8:32:42 AM

From: B.B.King

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Date: 7/31/2015 9:57:30 AM
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It wasn't accusation, it was possible explanation. Maybe you won few games because you have more expensive guards (and maybe even whole payroll), not because of SB of bigs.

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