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Finally got a good trainee:

Allan Sullivan (24059803)
Small Forward
Owner: The BuzzerBeater Team

Weekly salary: $ 5 012
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 12500
Age: 18
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: awful ↑ Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: strong

Experience: atrocious


I'll probably coach him on IS, ID, Rebounding, one v one (forwards) and OD. Any thoughts? e.g. What should i coach this season? how long do i coach a skill until I rotate to the next one? etc

It depends what you want to turn him into. If you have the patence you could make him a very reasonable SF quite easily. Perhaps start with the inside skills as that is what you have indicated. I would try to get IS and ID to prominent this season and not train rebounding except in two game weeks. Then next season you will have to just slam the OD for a long time to get it at least prominent.

I will actually disagree with yoda on this one, as big and brave as I am. (and lets watch the rebuttles fly! hehe)

id give him OD training. It just makes it a bit easier to play him in the guard positions in league games moving forward - once his OD gets good enough, it makes his minutes easier to manage at the guard position for training, which in my opinion, you will be doing more of.

Also, i believe his ID is acceptable for Div IV, as most teams will play a more outside based player at SF. And even if you wanted to train him in other big skills (ie: IS) then his ID is high enough that he wont get creamed playing at C (its div IV remembre peoples!) This again makes managing training minutes a little bit easier.

The other potential issue with training inside skills first, is that he may turn into a PF, and salary wise, might go up more. WHich is fine, its going to go up regardless, but then you are left with a higher-salaried PF that you will need to play at the guard positions in order to train later down the track. This makes it a bit harder to manage salary/minutes of other players as well, and that star guard you may have just bought is suddenly not playing full time minutes....
Itss very dependant upon your current roster, which I have to admit, i havent looked it. It might actually make sense to train him as a forward to begin with if you are light on in that department.

food for thought anyways.

I'm on Regan's side:

- train his OD while you have easy games, it's gonna be painful to train that once you promote!
- keep his wages as low as possible, I doubt you can afford to train a 20k PF out of position in d4.

... of course, if you're intended to turn him into a SF (which I'd strongly recommend to a low division team for some salaries reasons again).

If you want him to become a PF, then you could start training his primaries a little bit.

I think at this stages the goal is to make him a inside based small forward/combo foward?

I also noticed that our under21 NT doesnt really have an inside based sf so hopefully in a couple of seasons my player could help out in that deparment...

You are not disagreeing with me. He indicated he was doing inside this season. When training a SF you have to make sure he fits in with the players around him as it is a long process. If his other trainees are big men right now (I don't know) he may as well finish their inside training and do the first inside component for his SF.

While his overall skills are so low you have nothing to worry about as far as salary explosions go. No matter how well he trains him this season I doubt his salary will reach much above $10,000. It is a non-issue. Having trained at least his ID to proficient-prolific this season you wont need to worry about the OD being an issue, as no matter where you play him you can always move him to a different position in defence to hide it until you get the chance to raise it to an acceptable level.

yarrrrrr i know, i wasnt really disagreeing with you at all was i!? LOL. next time ill really disagree. promise :)

So yes, the training that he does needs to fit into his team and team structure, and yer, if his other trainee's are forwards then training inside skills might be the best option if he wants to keep them...... Otherwise the other option for BBB could be to sell his other trainee's, make this guy the pure 100% training focus for him and all other players that get training is just bonus. this would give him more flexibility with this particular trainee. whether he wants this or not is up to him.

The salary difference is neglible you are right, im probably thinking of my own circumstances here. Early on yes, it doesnt matter that much.

In terms of playing him in different defensive positions to hide his weakness, this is absolutely true, and is a very useful tactic that ive come to really appreciate over the last few seasons..... . However it does make managing minutes, others players playing positions and minutes and the general team strucutre/playing abilities need to accomodate this. ie: its a lot more difficult, when compared to just straight 'Play him at C, or PG'...
There is no right/wrong way here really, because the player is so young and has good secondaries, my perspective is just to keep training as simple as possible and as flexible as possible, especially if you are just starting out.

This guy is and will be the pur 100% training focus and your right, any other players that get training is just a bonus :) right now im in basically a bot league so i dont mind playing him in any position...

There is a PF in the SA U21 with 5OD and 5ID... I asked his manager wether he had any training plan, he answered:

"yes i have and it is very important.
i will training ribbons and short shot"

(figure out the fellow has starter potential)

this PF is the 6th best player in the team. I guess I'll have to make do =)

haha
ribbons

last time i was in SA, all i heard was 'shame about the rigby'.
i kept wondering who this Rigby guy was and why people kept telling me about his shame