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271644.105 in reply to 271644.104
Date: 7/30/2015 11:56:43 PM
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I'm agreeing with them... I'm saying you don't need to analyze anything to prove that it works it's lower division. It will work because anything will work in lower divisions. Scaling down the skills will work no data needed.

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Date: 7/31/2015 12:01:34 AM
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Thank you for clarifying. Manon and the expert from Japan are the ones saying without data that scaling down what works in the upper leagues is the way to be successful in the lower leagues. I didn't think you were agreeing with that whan you say "anything will work." I am also inclined to believe many, many things will work in the lower leagues, although maybe not "anything."

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Date: 7/31/2015 12:09:07 AM
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Nope, I understand completely and I disagree with you. I think you can always scale it down and have it be a very reasonable comparison. Sorry for the confusion.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 7/31/2015 12:09:55 AM

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
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Date: 7/31/2015 12:27:35 AM
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Nope, I understand completely and I disagree with you. I think you can always scale it down and have it be a very reasonable comparison. Sorry for the confusion.

Of course you can "scale it down and have it be a very reasonable comparison." I don't disagree with that. But is it a winning approach at the lower levels? I disagree with Manon and the expert from Japan that it that is the only or even the best way to win in the lower leagues. They present no data to that effect, and it has been my experience that plenty of other approaches can be successful at the lower levels. See it now?

Last edited by Mike Franks at 7/31/2015 12:30:23 AM

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271644.109 in reply to 271644.108
Date: 7/31/2015 1:13:48 AM
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Nope. I guess I'm dumb or just not focusing hard enough. My bad.

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
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271644.112 in reply to 271644.101
Date: 7/31/2015 5:10:39 AM
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Playing as PG shouldn't be big problem because he can play in defence on different position.
When player is great in defence and weak in attack it will be work only if his profits in defence is higher than his loss in attack. I doubt you have enough compensation. You want to reduced opponent's attack to 4 players but you set only 4 players in your own attack. So you need to fight to retrieve something what you gave up without fight.
Presented numbers don't convince me. Experiment was made in lower division. If you need 16 ID + 18 SB in 3rd division, then how high should they be in 1st division? 25 ID + 30 SB?
Maybe skill scale works from higher to lower division, but for sure it doesn't work from lower to higher. In lower division you can train outside shooting for 32yo C, who has JR=1 and manage enthusiasm and gameshape better than opponents and win easily. I checked in buzzer-manager that since season 24 you played practically only RNG. And after few seasons most of your opponents still don't use GPD against you. So I doubt that they are demanding challenge.
Block is my favorite action in real basketball. But it doesn't work in BB.

From: Robard

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271644.113 in reply to 271644.112
Date: 7/31/2015 5:26:11 AM
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You still failed to see the main point. The game engine decides which player to avoid shooting against based on defense (at least to a large extend), not SB as you stated earlier in this post.
You dont need 16 ID in third league, right, yet Haek was not designed to be a third league player but to play NT level.
You still did not present any facts that support your claims while completely ignoring or not understanding the facts presented by others.
That SB does work in BB has been shown by Manon and others, who, by the way, where more successful with it that you are with your team (since you are looking down on third league managers).

From: B.B.King

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271644.114 in reply to 271644.113
Date: 7/31/2015 5:49:42 AM
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Every important tittle in BB was won without SB. And there is no single example with SB. It is fact.
When Manon won few games he had guards with 150-180k salary or something like that, who are hard to maintain if you don't play in micronation.

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Date: 7/31/2015 5:55:14 AM
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Every important tittle in BB was won without SB.


Same goes for JR probably.

And because SB was disregarded on a global scale. A year ago there was maybe just a handful players with more than 14 SB.


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