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Concordo que a competitividade caiu e um dos motivos é a quantidade de times ativos..

Mesmo assim acredito que falta planejamento para os times, subir da III para a II como vc relatou é meio que inevitável mas subir da II para a LN tem como se evitar.. A segunda tem em sua maioria times ativos e a competitividade apesar de estar em um nível distante da LN, podemos dizer que tem competitividade.

O ideal é os donos dos times primeiramente evoluir suas estruturas (ginasio e as funcionalidades), focar em aprenser a treinar jogdores e manter uma saúde financeira. Melhor lugar para ganhar grana e treinar é a III. problema que desmotiva por não ter competitividade, mas pensamento tem que ser a médio/longo prazo.

Eu jogo a muito tempo e bati algumas vezes na LN, em uma das vezes estava até que bem estruturado e consegui meu primeiro titulo da LN sem conseguir manter o nível acabei caindo para a II. Esse meu atual ciclo eu fui até a extinta IV divisão e comecei a treianr e fiquei fazendo caixa. Comprei dois jogadores e fui treinando, fiz algumas cagadas ao longo do treino mas até que consegui treinar dois ótimos armadores. Acumulei um montante de 24kk durante todo esse tempo e assim como no treino fiz umas cagadas (compra de jogadores) kkkkkkkk...

Hoje meu elenco está estourando em idade 32 anos, tenho mais uma temproada em alto nível, depois pretendo cair novamente para a III e recomeçar o ciclo. Essa estratégia deu muito certo para mim e consegui manter um rendimento bom por umas 6 a 7 temporadas.. Nessa pretendo ir um pouco mais longe no B3..

Bom é isso, abraço e se precisarem mandem msg que vamos compartilhando ideias e experiência de jogo.

Abraço e bom jogo a todos..

Day 4 (Tuesday 3 May 2022) : Performances by https://www.buzzer-manager.com

Night results
Ford Redemption 71 - Curythiba GKBC 89
Fla Morada 58 - Minas Suns 73
Brasilia Celtics 94 - Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE 108
OSK TEAMs 91 - Tropa De Elite 101
Highlander Basket 64 - Águia de Maraba 114
Porto Alegre Stars 111 - Loko Parelheiros 99
BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG 82 - BC Barão 110
Synbios Force 62 - FLAMENGO81 88

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 114 : Águia de Maraba
Rebounds : 63 : FLAMENGO81
Assists : 30 : Águia de Maraba
Steals : 10 : Brasilia Celtics
Block Shots : 10 : Synbios Force, Águia de Maraba

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 36 : D. Chin Ling (Águia de Maraba), S. Artigas (Porto Alegre Stars)
Rebounds : 20 : V. Mirijevski (Curythiba GKBC), C. Cacique (Minas Suns)
Assists : 13 : B. Debruille (Águia de Maraba)
Steals : 4 : J. Silva Souto (Brasilia Celtics), Z. Rosenberger (Ford Redemption)
Block Shots : 5 : M. Caverna (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE), S. Schönbrodt (Águia de Maraba)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : S. Artigas (Porto Alegre Stars) (36 Points, 2 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 34
Shooting Guard : P. Perencin (Porto Alegre Stars) (29 Points, 1 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 0 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 25
Small Forward : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) (35 Points, 8 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots), D. Chin Ling (Águia de Maraba) (36 Points, 10 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 37
Power Forward : V. Mirijevski (Curythiba GKBC) (30 Points, 20 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 0 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 43
Center : T. Payten (Loko Parelheiros) (15 Points, 19 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 1 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 28

MVP of the evening
V. Mirijevski (Curythiba GKBC) (30 Points, 20 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 0 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 43

The bad performance of the evening
E. Ghiso (Synbios Force) (4 Points, 3 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 2 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -7

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : V. Malbaša (BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG) : 6 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : J. Billings (OSK TEAMs), S. Kok Ngo (Loko Parelheiros), P. Perencin (Porto Alegre Stars) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : J. Fratino (Brasilia Celtics), A. Bustamante (FLAMENGO81), T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs), E. Cenoura (Fla Morada), B. Debruille (Águia de Maraba), T. Payten (Loko Parelheiros), R. Bruijn (Tropa De Elite), G. Katich (Tropa De Elite), Z. Rosenberger (Ford Redemption), G. Chadwick (Minas Suns) : 48 Minutes

The shooter : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) : 9 Three points

The best performer : S. Schönbrodt (Águia de Maraba) : Rating : 17.5

The worst performer : Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 1.0

Day 5 (Saturday 7 May 2022) : Performances by https://www.buzzer-manager.com

Night results
Brasilia Celtics 95 - Ford Redemption 91
OSK TEAMs 82 - Fla Morada 103
Tropa De Elite 92 - Minas Suns 94
Curythiba GKBC 101 - Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE 81
BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG 126 - Highlander Basket 97
Synbios Force 92 - Porto Alegre Stars 100
FLAMENGO81 97 - Loko Parelheiros 108
Águia de Maraba 66 - BC Barão 81

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 126 : BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG
Rebounds : 65 : Brasilia Celtics
Assists : 36 : BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG
Steals : 10 : Porto Alegre Stars
Block Shots : 11 : BC Barão

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 47 : L. Calado (FLAMENGO81)
Rebounds : 20 : L. Griškus (Synbios Force), T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs)
Assists : 11 : S. Kok Ngo (Loko Parelheiros)
Steals : 5 : S. Artigas (Porto Alegre Stars)
Block Shots : 5 : J. Benduch (Ford Redemption)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : J. Fratino (Brasilia Celtics) (21 Points, 16 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 33
Shooting Guard : T. Otero (Minas Suns) (23 Points, 6 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 3 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 26
Small Forward : L. Calado (FLAMENGO81) (47 Points, 9 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 33
Power Forward : L. Griškus (Synbios Force) (18 Points, 20 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 34
Center : T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs) (24 Points, 20 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 36

MVP of the evening
T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs) (24 Points, 20 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 36

The bad performance of the evening
D. Kričković (Ford Redemption) (2 Points, 1 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots)M. Lotito (Minas Suns) (0 Points, 1 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -4

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : A. Talbot (Synbios Force) : 7 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : B. Ward (FLAMENGO81), M. Villa (Fla Morada), G. Desforges (Curythiba GKBC) : 5 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : J. Fratino (Brasilia Celtics), V. Torquato (Ford Redemption) : 53 Minutes

The shooter : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE), A. Charbonnel (Ford Redemption) : 5 Three points

The best performer : A. Villa-Lobos (BC Barão), T. Otero (Minas Suns) : Rating : 16.5

The worst performer : Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 2.0

Day 6 (Tuesday 10 May 2022) : Performances by https://www.buzzer-manager.com

Night results
Ford Redemption 81 - OSK TEAMs 95
Fla Morada 91 - Brasilia Celtics 104
Minas Suns 75 - Curythiba GKBC 98
Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE 111 - Tropa De Elite 110
Highlander Basket 56 - Synbios Force 109
Porto Alegre Stars 97 - BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG 93
Loko Parelheiros 99 - Águia de Maraba 94
BC Barão 97 - FLAMENGO81 46

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 111 : Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE
Rebounds : 62 : Minas Suns
Assists : 30 : Synbios Force
Steals : 19 : Curythiba GKBC
Block Shots : 11 : Synbios Force

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 41 : D. Chin Ling (Águia de Maraba)
Rebounds : 31 : T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs)
Assists : 10 : O. Scheicher (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE)
Steals : 5 : G. Desforges (Curythiba GKBC), V. Bonomo (Porto Alegre Stars)
Block Shots : 5 : B. Biscui (Brasilia Celtics)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : A. Nunez (Brasilia Celtics) (23 Points, 10 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 28
Shooting Guard : P. Perencin (Porto Alegre Stars) (35 Points, 2 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 30
Small Forward : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) (31 Points, 4 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 0 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 30
Power Forward : R. Bruijn (Tropa De Elite) (37 Points, 13 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 48
Center : T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs) (21 Points, 31 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 2 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 36

MVP of the evening
R. Bruijn (Tropa De Elite) (37 Points, 13 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 48

The bad performance of the evening
G. Chadwick (Minas Suns) (9 Points, 7 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -11

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : G. Chadwick (Minas Suns) : 7 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : L. Stramowski (FLAMENGO81), J. Bare (Fla Morada), T. Tsoutsounakis (Fla Morada), C. Hong Eng (BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG), Z. Rosenberger (Ford Redemption) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : F. Kenyon (FLAMENGO81), B. Ward (FLAMENGO81), R. da Lua (BC Barão), E. Cenoura (Fla Morada), R. Thomas (Tropa De Elite), G. Chadwick (Minas Suns) : 48 Minutes

The shooter : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) : 7 Three points

The best performer : G. Desforges (Curythiba GKBC) : Rating : 17.5

The worst performer : Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 1.5

Day 7 (Saturday 14 May 2022) : Performances by https://www.buzzer-manager.com

Night results
Fla Morada 77 - Ford Redemption 66
OSK TEAMs 112 - Brasilia Celtics 102
Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE 73 - Minas Suns 97
Curythiba GKBC 103 - Tropa De Elite 92
Porto Alegre Stars 91 - Highlander Basket 76
Synbios Force 108 - BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG 72
BC Barão 81 - Loko Parelheiros 98
Águia de Maraba 70 - FLAMENGO81 85

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 112 : OSK TEAMs
Rebounds : 63 : FLAMENGO81, Synbios Force
Assists : 27 : Brasilia Celtics
Steals : 14 : Fla Morada
Block Shots : 11 : BC Barão

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 46 : R. de Sá Leal (BC Barão)
Rebounds : 24 : L. Griškus (Synbios Force)
Assists : 9 : N. Altafini (BC Barão), S. Schönbrodt (Águia de Maraba)
Steals : 4 : J. Maravilha (Fla Morada)
Block Shots : 5 : N. Altafini (BC Barão)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : R. de Sá Leal (BC Barão) (46 Points, 3 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 46
Shooting Guard : J. Billings (OSK TEAMs) (10 Points, 4 Rebounds, 8 Assists, 3 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 21
Small Forward : B. Lhermitte (Minas Suns) (22 Points, 5 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 2 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 23
Power Forward : L. Griškus (Synbios Force) (16 Points, 24 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 35
Center : F. Kenyon (FLAMENGO81) (22 Points, 15 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 32

MVP of the evening
R. de Sá Leal (BC Barão) (46 Points, 3 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 46

The bad performance of the evening
O. Carioca (BC Barão) (0 Points, 7 Rebounds, 1 Assists, 0 Steals, 1 Block Shots)Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) (4 Points, 1 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -4

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : K. Klosowski (Ford Redemption) : 9 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : J. Arara (FLAMENGO81), K. Klosowski (Ford Redemption), Z. Rosenberger (Ford Redemption), M. Lotito (Minas Suns) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : J. Fratino (Brasilia Celtics), F. Kenyon (FLAMENGO81), R. Alavedra (FLAMENGO81), R. de Sá Leal (BC Barão), N. Altafini (BC Barão), T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs), G. Dibernárdó (Fla Morada), P. Di Matteo (BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG) : 48 Minutes

The shooter : R. de Sá Leal (BC Barão) : 8 Three points

The best performer : C. Cacique (Minas Suns) : Rating : 17.0

The worst performer : Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 1.0

Depois do fim da primeira fase de jogoa da TR, os líderes da liga são:

Season 57 : Performances (by https://www.buzzer-manager.com)

Best collective performance of the season
Points : 738 : Loko Parelheiros
Rebounds : 379 : FLAMENGO81
Assists : 173 : Loko Parelheiros
Steals : 59 : Fla Morada
Block Shots : 54 : BC Barão

Personal best performances of the season
Points : 47 : L. Calado (FLAMENGO81)
Rebounds : 31 : T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs)
Assists : 13 : B. Debruille (Águia de Maraba)
Steals : 5 : G. Desforges (Curythiba GKBC), A. Cólman (Loko Parelheiros), R. Thomas (Tropa De Elite), S. Artigas (Porto Alegre Stars), V. Bonomo (Porto Alegre Stars)
Block Shots : 5 : B. Biscui (Brasilia Celtics), M. Caverna (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE), M. Caverna (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE), N. Altafini (BC Barão), S. Schönbrodt (Águia de Maraba), S. Schönbrodt (Águia de Maraba), J. Benduch (Ford Redemption)

Top 5 of the season
Point Guard : J. Fratino (Brasilia Celtics) (19.5 Points, 7.7 Rebounds, 3.5 Assists, 0.2 Steals, 0.2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 22.7
Shooting Guard : R. da Lua (BC Barão) (15.2 Points, 6.5 Rebounds, 3.7 Assists, 0.5 Steals, 0.7 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 19
Small Forward : D. Chin Ling (Águia de Maraba) (33.7 Points, 5.6 Rebounds, 1.3 Assists, 0.6 Steals, 0.3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 22.3
Power Forward : R. Bruijn (Tropa De Elite) (26.1 Points, 11.4 Rebounds, 2.4 Assists, 0.3 Steals, 0.7 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 29
Center : T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs) (20.4 Points, 17.6 Rebounds, 0.1 Assists, 1 Steals, 0.6 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 30.3

MVP of the season
T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs) (20.4 Points, 17.6 Rebounds, 0.1 Assists, 1 Steals, 0.6 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 30.3

The bad performance of the season
D. Harp (Synbios Force) (6 Points, 1 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -12

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens during the season : K. Klosowski (Ford Redemption), T. Dumontet (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) : 21 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees during the season : A. Ognjanović (Águia de Maraba) : 29 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man of the season : R. Thomas (Tropa De Elite) : 317 Minutes

The shooter of the season : A. Faidherbe (Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE) : 32 Three points

The best performer of the season : T. Goetz (Synbios Force) : Rating : 21.0

The worst performer of the season : Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars), Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars), Y. Bin-Saleh (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 1.0

Porto Alegre Stars foi banido?

Day 8 (Tuesday 17 May 2022) : Performances by https://www.buzzer-manager.com

Night results
Ford Redemption 126 - Highlander Basket 72
Fla Morada 135 - Porto Alegre Stars 25
Brasilia Celtics 109 - BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG 75
OSK TEAMs 73 - Synbios Force 84
Minas Suns 111 - Loko Parelheiros 96
Phoenix Suns,AMAZONENSE 93 - BC Barão 119
Tropa De Elite 124 - FLAMENGO81 55
Curythiba GKBC 98 - Águia de Maraba 75

Best collective performance of the evening
Points : 135 : Fla Morada
Rebounds : 68 : Fla Morada
Assists : 44 : Fla Morada
Steals : 21 : Fla Morada
Block Shots : 12 : Ford Redemption

Personal best performances of the evening
Points : 40 : R. da Lua (BC Barão)
Rebounds : 21 : L. Griškus (Synbios Force)
Assists : 11 : A. Prikourakis (Tropa De Elite)
Steals : 7 : G. Katich (Tropa De Elite)
Block Shots : 4 : A. Tilico (Fla Morada), K. Klosowski (Ford Redemption)

Top 5 of the evening
Point Guard : A. Nunez (Brasilia Celtics) (20 Points, 10 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 1 Steals, 1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 31
Shooting Guard : R. da Lua (BC Barão) (40 Points, 8 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 1 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 40
Small Forward : M. Villa (Fla Morada) (24 Points, 14 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 5 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 42
Power Forward : C. Cacique (Minas Suns) (35 Points, 13 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 44
Center : A. Tito (Tropa De Elite) (15 Points, 15 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 2 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 29

MVP of the evening
C. Cacique (Minas Suns) (35 Points, 13 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 44

The bad performance of the evening
T. Valdez (Porto Alegre Stars) (2 Points, 5 Rebounds, 0 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : -9

All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens : L. Pereira (Porto Alegre Stars) : 8 Turnovers

Player targeted by the referees : T. Valdez (Porto Alegre Stars) : 6 Personnal Fouls

The iron-man : A. Nunez (Brasilia Celtics), U. Karacejus (FLAMENGO81), A. Etiópia (FLAMENGO81), L. Stramowski (FLAMENGO81), E. Caraúba (FLAMENGO81), R. da Lua (BC Barão), T. Chatziyiannakis (OSK TEAMs), P. Di Matteo (BAYERN MÜNCHEN-MG), Y. Mennan (Águia de Maraba), G. Chadwick (Minas Suns) : 48 Minutes

The shooter : J. Bataille (Loko Parelheiros) : 6 Three points

The best performer : M. Villa (Fla Morada) : Rating : 17.5

The worst performer : M. de Campos (Porto Alegre Stars) : Rating : 0.5

É...
...virou bot!!! =/

Nem tinha reparado... Pelo visto o Ralf tava certo mesmo.
Uma pena que o manager do Porto Alegre Stars tenha, de fato, recorrido a esse tipo de coisa pra não perder dinheiro (Claro, caso ele tenha sido banido mesmo).

Mudando de assunto:

Semana que vem, na Copa do Brasil, teremos um "duelo interno" da II.4: FLAMENGO81 x Fla Morada!!! Qual rubro-negro sai vitorioso???
😛

Last edited by Gui Garrido at 05/19/2022 20:30:58