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Oh ok lets resort to middle school education and see where we can go from there!!!

That forum picture is a really good representation of who I am

That line about 7 potential has been on the front page since forever. I was able to get a 6 potential player on the US21 back in S27 so it's not unheard of.

I'm a fan of them being more open minded on their selects. Sometimes the long term projects take more time to flush out. He has 5 callups left. Whether he uses them on saves or late season reinforcements remains to be seen.

I'm a 2x former U21 manager myself (Jamaica/Bahamas). We never had the number of draftees to really compete with the US. Our strategy relied on saves which required convincing larger countries to take on our players late in the season. Sometimes we had 19 and 20yo's on the roster just to keep those players training. It's thankless work, but perhaps you might make a run for one of the micronations yourself.

The impetus for my even running was similar to the frustration you're feeling with the US21. The community at that time was not as inclusive and it truly was a 'dark cabal' which didn't help other less experienced managers. You always have the option to go Expat and go head to head with them. Our squads got wrecked by the US21 but it did teach me a lot when we were playing against lesser teams. Think about it.

The impetus for my even running was similar to the frustration you're feeling with the US21. The community at that time was not as inclusive and it truly was a 'dark cabal' which didn't help other less experienced managers. You always have the option to go Expat and go head to head with them. Our squads got wrecked by the US21 but it did teach me a lot when we were playing against lesser teams. Think about it.

I am running in 6 months I have been messaging new people every so often to keep it from being spamming. I need a new right hand man in my secret group to talk about strategies and war tactics to deploy... Yes I agree that its one politcal clique that people have tried and failed to undermined.

I am running in 6 months I have been messaging new people every so often to keep it from being spamming. I need a new right hand man in my secret group to talk about strategies and war tactics to deploy... Yes I agree that its one politcal clique that people have tried and failed to undermined.

This is very close to, if not over the line of, electioneering and canvassing for votes. There is a time and place on BB to discuss candidacy for the election, and it is in the designated election threads for that election. Since this is not that time and not that place, please ensure that any further discussions to that effect occur then and there or somewhere other than BB.

Yup I realized... I am now trying to help people by giving them advice on the game. Trying to bring people to my new group if needed.

Its more inclusive, but inclusive would not be the first adjective I would use to describe it. If you know what I mean.

I'd go more along the lines of, "less selective" or something along the lines of how its not as bad as before. It has a ways to go as do most things.

If you are contending to be a former u21 manager from jamaica, you are basically claiming to be Mix.. I tried to assist back in the day, but i grew tired of that the moment that micro nation went from 15 members to 18 members and the 3 new members voted for the same guy out of nowhere. Election fixing in small nations means you can do everything in your power to improve the situation and it might be pointless in the end.

The u21 cause, the offsite, the discord, w/e. In the end, it's a way to not openly discuss tactics about the under 21 games publicly in front of other u21 teams from another nations, who similarly do not post all of their work on the forums. Whatever there was 15-20 seasons ago i could never fix in 4 seasons as u21 manager, nor can jk, nor can sixth, nor can anyone else anyone clamors for. There are some that will take those past transgressions and never let go of them, so we'll never have the 100% buy-in. So instead, we pick and choose managers that respond to scouting at any level, whether they want to develop guys in general or develop for the u21.

The whole establishment/anti-establishment thing needs to take a backseat to basic understanding of the u21 wardo.

1) In the americas/worlds, the first roster is not generated until after the first gameshape update of the season, and instead is used as a timeframe to scout plays by putting them on and taking them off the team. It allows us to skills update them. If you decide to put a lineup up on thursday, and then log in saturday, there is a fairly good chance that you will have at least 1 or 2 players unusable in game 1 because of the amount of minutes the played in the first week. Their GS will be probably 5 or 6 if they played 100+ minutes. So any manager that puts the list together without considering gameshape is playing with a reduced amount of roster spots. Each rostered player that you take of the u21 reduces your enthusiasm by 1 roughly, which means you only have 18 chances to pick players that can help you before you can't call up anymore.

2) League standing does not impact ones ability to manage u21 players, league standing has everything to do with piecing together a team of both young and old players that can stand up to other teams of similar composition. A u21 manager in a lot of situations will be in D.III and D.IV buying and building players that can impact the outcome of the u21's performance. For example, i had 2 players the played in americas and 3 that played in worlds in my tenure. By commingling to the u21 roster, it's extremely hard to build a D.II or NBBA contender (though not impossible).

And the reason most people vote for someone on the offsite? again, if it's someone who doesn't believe in hiding roster player skills and strategies, they're kinda screwing the team over. Whether you call it Wardo's u21 website, FurYak's Discord, or the offsite cabal, at the end of the day you can't post things here publicly.

I have a basic understanding of under 21 and what the USA has to offer. Not sure what you were implying there. I may have never run for under 21 only instance when I was a complete noob. Hell I may have even won the New Zeland under 21 back in the day. Just take a look at Mexico roster compare to USA under 21 roster it fully compliments the national team....