BuzzerBeater Forums

To be honest, a PA is very easy to cap out, I've almost capped mine that started as an 18YO at the age of 21. I'm talking about when you get an MVP+ those take a while to cap out and this is when you start to see what I'm talking about take place.

I'm not sure about your country specifically. But in my country, if I wanna make it to the top, I'm gonna need players with SS+ potential that are maxed out to compete. Regardless of whether or not the players make it to NT. Once I have these players, I'd like to make use of them as long as possible. Hence why I said what I said.

Well, people have touched on it, but I think that the 18 year old season can be worth 8-12 skill points (depending on trainer level and whether you are filling holes). So, for a 19 year old to be worth it to me, he would have to have at least 10 more skill points than the 18 year old. Of course, you don't know tsp in the draft, so my draft board tends to be 4 and 5 ball 18 year olds sorted by potential, then 5 and 4 ball 19 year olds (I tend not to waste the draft points to interview them) followed by 3 ball players, unknown players, and, finally, 1-2 ball players.

Honestly, I would always start with an 18 year old as your primary trainee. If you want to have a 19 year old as a second or third trainee, I could see that, but they would really need to be above most 18 year olds. I'm talking like 60+ starting TSP. I think you could train a 60 TSP 19 year old over a 35 TSP 18 year old.

Your logic is liek everyone elses mostly an absurd: We train players to have skills, to play well right?

but in your logic we train players to be AS YOUNG with certain skills. When you play for example league finals does it really matters your 120 skillpoints supermultiskilled beast dropping 30 points per game 60 percent accuracy is 29 or 28 years old? Does it matter when you buying your team addition which you dont plan to train with exacly same skills is 26 or 30 year old? not rly. Mostly people buy 33 year old farts, because they need skill to win competition not age.

Example from real life does it matter if your super qualified specialist employee is 35 or 34 years old. According to ur logic it is because 35 year old could of have more skills and if you get 34 year old he would be better after year than the 35 year old lol...But if they all both fully capable of doing their jobs whats the difference then? none.

Age only does matter when you plan to sell players in first few seasons after training. If you train for yourself it doesnt matter so much.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 3/26/2014 8:24:30 AM

Yes and no. If we make the assumption that a 26 year old and a 32 year old with the same skills will play the same (discounting experience), then you are right that you wouldn't really care about which plays right now. However, recognizing that players tend to drop skills after 32/33 years old, your 26 year old is better for longer. That is, your 26 year old can play at a high level for 6 or more seasons, where as the 32 year old only has a few seasons left in him. So yes, both your 35 year old and 34 year old are capable of doing the job, but your 35 year old has one less season of usefulness (and will drop skills faster).

Don't get me wrong, I buy old farts all the time, but there are two reasons for it. They are cheap, and they tend to have more experience. But, I recognize that they are only useful for a handful of seasons.

old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 3/28/2014 4:05:32 PM

I have a hard time convincing myself to draft a 19yo. You can buy an 18yo for 50k and make him a dream 19yo draftee in a year.
the worst thing about the draft is that even an A+ can look unattractive.

old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know
old players are not cheap. young player are not cheap unless you sell them cheaply. Depends on who selling and whom you buy. No player is cheap per say.

A player can play at a high level his whole career if you train him right to start. Age doesnt matter. i have players in my legaue whoare35-36 putting up 40 a game. So no player is created equal., No talent level work the same for everybody.

Some perform everytime time and some do not. Is that ahidden trait, i dont know
Sorry, but I don't buy this, although you used many subjective words which could be interpreted different ways.

Old players are generally cheaper than younger players. Would I spend the same amount on a 38 YO vs a 28 YO with the same skill set? Probably not.

A player CAN play at a high level his whole career, but the question is how well. If I'm in the highest league in, let's say USA, and I start training an 18 YO from the start there, sure I can put him in and he'll get minutes, will he be jacking 40+ pts a game? Probably not. As a result, age does matter, because the older you are, the more skills could have been trained during that time period. A 19 YO only has 1 potential year of training under his belt, while a 28 YO has 10 potential years of training. Players start degrading after 32, and you start losing the value from them, age does matter.

Your personal experience of 35-36 YO putting up 40 a game is great and all, but I assume you'd like to climb up to league 1? That probably won't be the case in higher leagues.

No talent level work the same for everybody.

I have no idea what you mean by the above quote.

It is true that some players perform and some don't there are many hidden traits that no one knows how they exactly work (i.e. aggression).

I think a 18 yr old can put up big, big games in the top leagues. I think the catch is the exp gap. I thinks there's alot hidden traits. I don't think league level out right make big of difference in the players play, harder opponents don't mean the player is going to play bad or better. I have seen player from to p league go to lower league and still play terrible worst than a 2500 player with better skills.

as far as aggression. it maybe true but I think a lot skills in tactic need the proper balance for the players to be any good. I don't think age is much of a seal the deal factor. Because we can still win league with any age group.

so in small. player skill balance for the position , the right tactics and then the hidden trait. Let keep in not every player is going to have the right amount of skill to play everything(tactic). A lot of that falls on his team mates. That's what I think s far . Not saying its a 100% fact thing..

I think a 18 yr old can put up big, big games in the top leagues.

He absolutely can, if the opponent is playing scrubs and throwing the game to put their best lineup out for a Cup match. Otherwise, no, he can't. But feel free to show examples of 18 year olds putting up big games against legitimate "top league" lineups to support your point.