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87879.1
Date: 4/30/2009 1:23:21 PM
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please cypriots, don't think any question about NT is not a good issue to discuss...
Pistoleroes just send me some bbmails to clarify how the nt works and I gladly replied to him..

I post it all here, after having his agreement, so everybody can partecipate

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87879.2 in reply to 87879.1
Date: 4/30/2009 1:33:11 PM
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From a little search that I have done I have came across some players with apparently very good abilities. For example id number 7619042 who plays in a center position and he seems to be very good. I do not know the abilities of the centers of the national team but I assume that all 3 centers we have are better than this guy? If they are not then maybe we asked the user of that team to allow his player to enter the NT and he said no?
Secondly I possess a center with inside shooting strong, rebound strong, inside defense strong, blocking mediocre, free throws strong, driving average, outside defense mediocre. Height 216 and age 23.
None ever asked me if I wished for my player to enter the NT since I am first in my division II3 with all wins at the time being.
These are few things that I have seen regarding our NT and once again correct me where I am wrong.
Is it possible to send me the abilities of all the players of our NT so that can avoid assumptions and speak with facts?
Vaggos Genaridis (4135569)
Vassilis Vlahos (4135577)
Argiris Ritsos (5295247)
Vlasis Kourmentalas (5295236)

And these are just a few very good players that play in leagues not in Cyprus. Are our players better than these guys? Have we spoken to the managers to convince them to allow the players to play in our NT team? I am just asking cause I want what is better for my countries team.

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87879.3 in reply to 87879.2
Date: 4/30/2009 1:37:29 PM
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Let me respond point per point
(7619042)
: he is at least five popups beyond any center in the u21, and far far away from the big 2 in NT.. unluckily johnnyB lost the bid, and a daytrader bought him… so he will probably miss the NT, because being daytrading he will miss lots of trainings… only time will speak for him, but we are tracking him in the database

If they are not then maybe we asked the user of that team to allow his player to enter the NT and he said no?
Owners do not have the chance to avoid convocations.. and they do not have any bonus\malus by having a NT player. If a player isn’t in U21 or NT, it is 99% a technical motivation, we shouldn’t miss any possible national player in the database

[Player=7892048] Secondly I possess a center with inside shooting strong, rebound strong, inside defense strong, blocking mediocre, free throws strong, driving average, outside defense mediocre. Height 216 and age 23.
None ever asked me if I wished for my player to enter the NT since I am first in my division II3 with all wins at the time being.
your player isn’t good enough for the NT, and I doubt he will be, because of the age, he is a bit old to improve enough (I’ll give you an example of a NT center below).
None asked you because your Cypriot players aren’t good enough despite the good results you’re having…

Thirdly I only saw very young players in our NT team. Non over 21 years old. Why is that? Are there no good players at the age of 23, 24, 25 or even older? Why do we have only players under 21 in our NT and I am not talking about the U21. Do the managers dont allow their players to play in our NT? Cause I have seen a few 26 year old Cypriot players with very good abilities in the past.


/BBWeb/ntDetails.aspx?teamid=77 this is the National team, coached by steve makis – where you find also older players
/BBWeb/ntDetails.aspx?teamid=1077 this is the Under 21 where you find max 21 years old players… right now max 20 because I’m starting to work for the future and I can’t use actual 21 y.o., next season…

The reason most of top players are very young is the potential: it is a (not any more) recent innovation in BB, so many older player had a equal for all ALL-STAR potential, that stop their development at around 50k-55k salary.. higher potential players born only in last 4-5 season, but they will grow much more..
Now in Cyprus there aren’t so much old players also because the community isn’t so big, and it was smaller in the past, only now it is expanding the base of player improves and younger players improve more, also because they improve a few faster.

Is it possible to send me the abilities of all the players of our NT so that can avoid assumptions and speak with facts?

me and steve’s police about that is a bit restricting, we won’t give skills away so easily to defend the right that anyone has in the game of having his players skills secret… we especially won’t give the skills of players playing in Cyprus, because you can encounter them in the championship or in the tournament

But I will give you the main skills of a player that is not playing in Cyprus so you can have an idea of what the average level for nt players is:
21 years old Inside shot: 14 \ inside defense: 13 \ rebound: 12
As you can see your player is quite beyond this one, and two years older!

The players you talk about are on the database and are tracked every week, because me or steve bbmail every owner to ask any improvement.
Finally I ensure you that as we were elected coaches of these national teams, we played for the better of Cyprus anytime!

If you have any other question feel free to write me. I always reply


From: JohnnyB
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87879.4 in reply to 87879.3
Date: 5/1/2009 7:24:37 AM
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I just remember the 1st time that Steve contacted with me. During that time my team was wining, but i didnt knew actually what i was doing. Then he asked me for 4 young players that i had. Luckily all they where big, so with his advices i became a big man trainer. Then i was hoping just to have 1 player there. Then this season started, with me losing the elections for u21 NT manager by 1 vote. I said then that i would support the new manager as i did. Then i found my 2 talented players, that are members of the u21NT. 1 of them was the personal bet of fabio. With his help ive develop them enough to have 1 start from Gagalatos and some minutes for Papanagiotou. They are already much better players and they like 20+19 y/o. Now i scan the market every day just to find talented Cypriot big men, couz Papanagiotou will be on the market soon. He doesnt have great future as PF, but if someone train (his already good) outside skills then he will be great SF and permanent member of NT.

Me and Thecippis we train for now big men, so if you wanna follow that route we can help you. If you wanna train guards, then Steve Makis its your man.

Edit: I want to explain why the managers have specialty. Trying to train all the team, makes the training really slow. We only train FT/stamina during the all star and the offseason. So to be able to have complete team, the 1 who is training big men' he sells 1 of them and with that money can get a great player for the positions that he dont train.
Training is a big part of this game, and very important.

Last edited by JohnnyB at 5/1/2009 7:29:57 AM

From: Pallu

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87879.5 in reply to 87879.1
Date: 5/2/2009 3:52:02 PM
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I would appreciate a thread where NT/U21 players or candidates that are for sale are presented.

This is not necessarily a NT-Team task (the way Steve_Makis initially did it was very time-consuming), but maybe you can push it a bit.

Last edited by Pallu at 5/2/2009 3:52:23 PM

From: JohnnyB

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87879.6 in reply to 87879.5
Date: 5/2/2009 5:00:54 PM
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Well do what i am doing man. Search every day the market for Cypriots from 18-21 with star+ potential and you will have it. This is how i found Yiannakakos, Rompolis etc

From: Pallu

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87879.7 in reply to 87879.6
Date: 5/2/2009 6:13:21 PM
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I am not mainly thinking about myself...