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From: Kukoc
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Date: 4/1/2009 9:42:21 AM
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I know that GM-s are not allowed to talk about the tools they have against cheaters and actual processes used to determine cheating.
I would like to know why is it forbidden to discuss cases in the forum? Has it something to do with US laws? We have a discussion about reporting in Estonian forum and people think that there is no feedback on the players reported. So why exactly are guys who get caught cheating protected by BB? You keep reporting and reporting but there is no way you know that the cheater is punished unless the guy cry's in the forum or respond's to the bb-mail that you sent and asked about the punishment. With no feedback people tend to lose intrest in reporting. Is it ok if we will start a thread in Estonian forum where people can post managers who they think are cheating. I keep a close look at all the teams that play in my league (transactions, every listing successful or not etc). If you live in a community with convicted fellons would you not like to know who are those guys?

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84016.3 in reply to 84016.2
Date: 4/1/2009 10:12:13 AM
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A big punch of players will not even get reported because there is no feedback to the reporters about punishment, so basically your reply is incorrect...

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84016.5 in reply to 84016.1
Date: 4/1/2009 10:49:52 AM
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Is it ok if we will start a thread in Estonian forum where people can post managers who they think are cheating.

No, it's not ok.

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84016.6 in reply to 84016.4
Date: 4/1/2009 10:57:02 AM
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Because people are saying they do not bother reporting any more because they see no feedback and the teams in question still keep their etc.

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84016.7 in reply to 84016.5
Date: 4/1/2009 10:57:22 AM
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Because?

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84016.8 in reply to 84016.7
Date: 4/1/2009 11:15:22 AM
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Sorry, I thought it was obvious. It's part of the no public court sessions rule.

This is a personal comment with no GM hat:
This rule keeps things simple. You don't accuse anyone, so you don't get accused for no reason either. The alternative wouldn't be pretty and there would be more work for the GM's.

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84016.10 in reply to 84016.8
Date: 4/1/2009 11:28:54 AM
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So basically this applyes in the US correct? There is no way the public can actually punish the cheater. They can discuss the case in the forum report it and then let the GM handle it. The other way to avoid discussions and keep people reporting is to give feedback if the reported user has been fined. I do not understand why is that info classified? Why protect the villain?

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84016.11 in reply to 84016.9
Date: 4/1/2009 11:32:40 AM
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Do you actually believe that all cheaters get reported??? We can not report most of the above value transfers because we can not see the estimated range after the deal has gone through. Perhaps you feel there are a lot of reports because there are 50 GM's total to deal with what? about 45k users?