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From: Jward
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Date: 11/17/2008 2:39:11 PM
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so my trainees are now 20 years old and I wanted to ask to those who are experienced if I should go on training them? I have been really hard time selling any player after all those money taking changes so after training 2 years, I don't really want to sell some for lower than their worth. What do you advise me about it?

From: Padthai
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58299.3 in reply to 58299.2
Date: 11/17/2008 5:21:37 PM
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What about stacking theam with one position.. I mean.. I tried it last week but I don't know if it worked as I didn't get any 'pops' at all. But for example... My whole team was made up of PG's and SG's and I chose to train 'Jump Shot' for 'PG/SG'. I ended up with 6 players over 48mins, and another two with 40+ mins, but still no 'pops'. Do all the SG's and PG's that log minutes in the week get training, or only the players that played at the PG and SG positions?
I hope it's all players because I've tried the same strategy this week but with all my PF's and C's.

From: Calum

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58299.4 in reply to 58299.3
Date: 11/17/2008 5:29:33 PM
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Dude, It doesn't train them because of their trained position, it's where you play them in a match. It would only train the players that played in the PG/SG positions in the matches, even if you're whole team's preferred position is center.

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58299.5 in reply to 58299.4
Date: 11/17/2008 5:36:32 PM
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The best positions are there mainly as a reasult of salry height counting. They don't influence training neither designate the best positional use of a player (however the latter is accurate sometimes but it is not realiable at all assuming all tactics and strategies you can use).

From: Padthai

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58299.6 in reply to 58299.4
Date: 11/17/2008 6:15:11 PM
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Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Spewing.. well.. ok then.. does that mean that the 48mins required for maximum traning has to be played at the same position (i.e. 2 PF's getting 48 mins at PF over 2 games) or could I rotate 6 PF's to get 15 mins each at PF and make up the rest of their 48 at other positions?

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58299.7 in reply to 58299.6
Date: 11/17/2008 8:11:29 PM
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To receive the most of training for a player it is required to play 48+ minutes at trained positions. I.e. if yiou train Inside Shot for PF and C you can play 48 minutes at Pf, 48 minutes at C or 24 +24 or any such a combination. If you wouldn't score 48 minutes (at trained positions) but would score some anyway, your player will still receive a training but the training wouldn't be as effective. Every minute less than 48 is a significant downgrade. You probably noticed that some skills can be trained by entire team (like passing, rebounding etc.) i. e. every player who played 48 minutes no matter what position(s) he played will receive a training in this case (and all who played at least some time will receive some training). Notice that this team training is not as effective per player as training focused only on one or more positions (assuming the same amount of minutes).

Smaller players tend to train outside skills better, bigger inside skills better, age is important and some other things are believed to influenced training.

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Date: 11/18/2008 4:06:50 AM
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Smaller players tend to train outside skills better, bigger inside skills better, age is important and some other things are believed to influenced training.


OK, if this is true, tell me if this will work.

I drafted a 6 10 SG with mediocre inside skills. So if I play and train him at PF, it might work?

Or if I play and train the 6 4 PF I drafted at SG instead, that may work?

Otherwise the draft will be a total bust for me.

From: Thijs

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58299.9 in reply to 58299.8
Date: 11/18/2008 4:31:30 AM
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Join the club :)

But you are right: with enough inside training your 6'10" SG could become a descent PF with above avarage outside skills! And your 6'4" guy the other way around.

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58299.10 in reply to 58299.8
Date: 11/18/2008 7:29:55 AM
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I tend to believe randomness is the most important factor in training. I don't have a long term experience with some type of training to check how much which factor influenced it. I have some theories which I'm going to check week by week and see.

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Date: 11/18/2008 11:34:19 AM
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I tend to believe randomness is the most important factor in training.


Hmm I've never experienced much randomness in training. My trainees always pop when I expect them to pop. Just make sure you play them 48 minutes at least.

@Topicstarter. 20yo is a nice age to train trainees, they don't train that much slower than 18's.