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Hi just curious about an injury to my guy (35035113) in the last game (90212560).

It was a walkover and the other team didn't show. How would be possible for him to pick up an injury?

Thanks for your help.

Since your team booked the arena for your game, your players use that time to train.

Very very misleading. The game actually takes place between the team that shows up and a bunch of lucky fans. Yet also at the same time the game doesn't exist because its a walk over. Its a bizarre case where a thing happens and at the same time it doesn't happen. I don't know if its a quantum physics joke or a 1984 reference.

Yes you get training, and GS minutes which won't be the same as you would have got with your possibly carefully constructed lineup, and possibly your game shape and training could be screwed for the week because someone doesn't show up for a game, but hey, at least there's a chance you can have a player injured so that's a big plus.

I remember when Marin said he was going to do something about the scourge of empty lineups as he worded. I thought finall, an end to walkovers. What a disappointment to then find he meant the blank lineup and a change to the let coach decide option, which was the only working option.

Walkovers shouldn't be allowed. Simply force teams to have a default (you could just use the previous games settings if its too difficult to actually force it) or make them play their worst five players for 48 minutes. Or punish them further by making them draft last, and fine them their TV money for the week.

And yes if that means punish someone for forgetting to set a lineup then yes I don't see that as a problem.

I understand your logic sort of....

I actually check the game viewer etc and the guy got injured in the first minute.

However, he was booked as having 'played' 12 minutes as per the amount of minutes in weekly stats.

So in short...

He showed up to the game.
There was no game.
He played anyway to get some training.
He played for 1 minute
He gets injured after one minute
He actually gets 12 minutes towards training.
What???


Not many areas of the game that are totally against all logic and can be relatively easy fix to but this has to to be one. As you mentioned there are tons of fouls in WO matches and given this I would assume a higher probability of getting injured.

So a team who 'wins' by walkover has to deal with messed up minutes AND a higher possibility of injures. You would think seeing as there is no real impetus to win a match with 'lucky fans' that the coach would be able to manage minutes perfectly and there would be less injuries.

So no risk of injury and no training minutes - that's what you want in the case of a walkover?

Personally I think there is a disadvantage to being the 'victim' of a walkover, or at least inconsistency. In the first instance if there is a walkover situation I think that there should not be a minutes penalty. If you look at the minutes allocated in the game in question there were nine people who dressed for the game. The starters got 36 minutes, back ups got 12 (4 each). The 9th person was the trainee and was booked to play the full 48. Instead he received 43 minutes. To me this doesn't make sense and the full 240 minutes (48 * 5 position) should be allocated. In this game I lost 5 minutes to the 'walkover void'. Had i dressed only 5 people I would have lost 25 minutes to the 'walkover void'? Point is there is a penalty where I'm not sure it is fair to have one, especially when you consider that you run the full risk of injury.

In short:

I think if there is a penalty on minutes, then at least make it so that injuries can't happen.

If however there is actually a 'game' with the lucky fans, then maybe allow injuries, but don't penalise teams in terms of minutes.

Not being able to always get 240 games minutes allocated to your players AND being 100% able to get injuries as if there is a game doesn't seem right.

I can't speak for Morwood but as I've previously posted in this thread I'll force my way into the debate again. I want to play a game. I don't want a walkover to happen at all. If there's a game then there's a risk of injury and normal minutes. Why would anyone defend walkovers? Its simple to set a default lineup. It takes one click. It wouldn't really be that hard to force a lineup either.

Either force a default or punish the team giving the walkover. If a fine amounting to that week's TV money isn't deemed enough, then putting the miscreant's head down the loo and flushing it doesn't seem too far to me.