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Just like the title says. change2/3zone to 2-3 man to man. It would help people use it more.

As far I can tell 2-3 zone does not work. utterly useless. It does create the effect it should. For the sake of the myth of aggressive players. Where are the mass steals. I all I see is mass loses for those who try to use it or mass debt.

In my mind 2-3zone should be best used defense on BB, but in the reality of bb its the worst. If people can get 3-2 zone to work. I find hard to understand why 2-3 zone cant work if you just reverse the formula, Do you need 20/od and 20 sb/ 20 id and some mythical aggressive beast??

The thing is ,it way to expensive? because 2-3 zone in real life depends on the guards. We all know guard are expensive and quick to the bb poor house . This is why I ask or suggest to change it to 2-3 man/man.. It would not be to hard to figure out nor run, not very expensive. Same exact cost as 3-2 zone. Because it a form man to man in which you really don't need more defensive skills to make it perform just slightly.


This would open up diverse defensive tactic. without having make sum dumb tax on players or do a unneeded restrict or take away of skill in the GE to make it work.

As far I can tell 2-3 zone does not work. utterly useless. It does create the effect it should. For the sake of the myth of aggressive players. Where are the mass steals. I all I see is mass loses for those who try to use it or mass debt.

I kind of wish that were true right about now, since the #2 team in my conference has used the 2-3 in consecutive games against playoff caliber opposition. Perhaps I was hallucinating when 10 Inch Vertical was running it in the NBBA too. Man, I wish I had an idea about what strategies don't work so I might not try them myself.

you base two team for all of the BB teams who have lost using it . Is that your point? So 2% of success for 98% of no successful team using make it a fact ?

You neglect to say anything about them maybe knowing how to get it to work, skill talent. gdp. etc etc.. They haven't come out and said anything to help others? 2-3 zone does not work for majority of the teams on the game. Period!!

Just like the title says. change2/3zone to 2-3 man to man. It would help people use it more.

We already have man-to-man defense. It is called "man-to-man."

Last edited by Mike Franks at 11/19/2014 2:07:39 PM

you base two team for all of the BB teams who have lost using it . Is that your point? So 2% of success for 98% of no successful team using make it a fact ?

You neglect to say anything about them maybe knowing how to get it to work, skill talent. gdp. etc etc.. They haven't come out and said anything to help others? 2-3 zone does not work for majority of the teams on the game. Period!!

I'm not saying the thing works perfectly. I'm not saying it works well or doesn't need a fix. I am just trying to let you know that if your point was "all I see is mass loses for those who try to use it or mass debt" that perhaps you're not looking thoroughly enough to be definitive on the issue.

I have copied and pasted from a basketball site to express how it would work in the thread..

Without making a wall of text and numbers. I will repeat it. It starts out as man to man defense but if the foe is way to strong like (LI or run/gun) it will turn into a zone of 2/3, the best man to each defender or area according to skill of the foe, thus making the game honest in a skillful way or make them work harder to get a basket. 2/3 would work better

Gdp and stamina and game shape, player skills. proper bench rotation will still play a huge factor. So there's no advantage by the choice of the said defense.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/20/2014 5:50:28 PM

it would activate zone, If the foe is too strong.

Lets say for example. what im doing this season and seasons to come. I lined all my strong starters on the bench. and my weak trainee as leaders. Now when my real strong players player come in , it not a fair match just tactically brilliant on my behalf. This way heighten my tactical edge versus my opponent. all they can do is play the starter. but they cant , they have to get the 2nd wind.?

this 2-3 man/man would understand this and make it a fair fight my team would pay a huge price to play in such fashion. My stronger players will have to work harder. It will attack gameshape /stamina and skill of them .. Also a said zone now it will remain as such, it cant go back. It just would put the right people in the game versus the right foe like a man to man . The greater tactic will have to work harder if its to great with players.

Skills will play a factor ,game shape/ stamina. It will not always work right unless you have the skill and those other factors.. It would just make 2/3 more relevant to use.

Its not made up. one of best coaches in the usa run it for a high school . 2/3zone man to man is hybrid. North Carolina tar hell run it. The nba runs it as well.
2-1-2 is box inside 1... nothing more or less as I read about it.. Does that work on BB I don't know. I assume not because none is using it. I think I won 1 game with it in the past.


What BB is running is Syracuse Orangemen 2-3 zone. But thing is it need great guards to make it work also great Sb center . Same as the real Syracuse college team has in the real world. IN BB that's a quick trip to the poor house(debt). We need a hybrid, thats cheaper to afford. That what I brought to the table. I don't know why teams with good Id and od can not run 2-3zone and be effective? I saw one guy 2 season back in my old 4 league Lincoln Warrior playing base Offense and 2-3 zone and beat a good team in the playoffs to go to the championship. The top team at the time..? Is that the deal breaker? Stamina??. I don't know

Princeton today is different in basketball than when it was 1st introduced. The old Indiana coach Bob knights made a hybrid of that offense. He did very good. BB does not offer that hybrid but it should.

Is it easy to do, maybe and not. At same time the game is need to improve 2-3 zone. We need to discuss it and improve it. Im all for a hybrid , I'm not a fan 2-3 zone on bb in its current state.



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/20/2014 8:07:11 PM