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From: Jay_m
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Date: 4/18/2013 10:04:36 PM
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Was there a final consensus on the GS hit for buying players? It seems like a bad idea to me because buying expensive players cheaply is one of the only ways that teams can catch up without tanking. The top teams consistently make more money by winning - whether in home attendance, cup games, or merchandising - and so can maintain a higher salary.

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240723.2 in reply to 240723.1
Date: 4/18/2013 10:14:54 PM
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How would a short term hit to game shape prevent a team from catching up? It might prevent a team from constantly shuffling in new "expensive players bought cheaply" but does anyone consider a team which is constantly doing that as actually having caught up to the the truly top teams?

Depending upon how much the hit is (and nothing seems to indicate it would be any worse than a player returning from being out with an injury for a couple of weeks) it should only take a couple of weeks to get a player back to normal game shape. Really not that big of a deal, other than it limits the effectiveness of adding a player right before the playoffs or a big game. Which of course seems to be the point of the idea.

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240723.4 in reply to 240723.3
Date: 4/19/2013 12:15:48 AM
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Yea the whole NT and GS thing is really gonna be quite the issue :s

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240723.5 in reply to 240723.2
Date: 4/19/2013 12:48:07 AM
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How would a short term hit to game shape prevent a team from catching up? It might prevent a team from constantly shuffling in new "expensive players bought cheaply" but does anyone consider a team which is constantly doing that as actually having caught up to the the truly top teams?


The top teams in a league (at least in India where we only have 40 teams) make extra money through cup and through added attendance which allows them to maintain a more expensive roster. This has led to a many season dominance by a single team who makes at least $50,000 per week more and perhaps $100,000 per week more in cup weeks than the other teams. Over the last ~20 seasons, there have been only two teams that have won the championship and the Cup, with occasional hiccups.

Unless one wants to tank for several seasons and build up the $20 million required, buying an expensive player a week or two before the playoffs gives one a chance. Hopefully the GS hit won't go below respectable, in which case it would not be too bad, but I don't see the need for it in the first place.

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240723.7 in reply to 240723.6
Date: 4/19/2013 5:12:54 PM
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Why not team enthusiasm drop? Similar to NT when you drop a player, in league when you add a player.

If you remember me, then I don't care if everyone else forgets.
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240723.8 in reply to 240723.1
Date: 4/19/2013 6:07:59 PM
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Was there a final consensus on the GS hit for buying players? It seems like a bad idea to me because buying expensive players cheaply is one of the only ways that teams can catch up without tanking. The top teams consistently make more money by winning - whether in home attendance, cup games, or merchandising - and so can maintain a higher salary.


The gameshape hit is supposed to be very short term so I'm not sure what tanking has to do with it.

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240723.9 in reply to 240723.8
Date: 4/20/2013 8:41:44 AM
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My only point is that several teams have spent a lot of money and built salary efficient rosters. Unless one wants to accumulate the same amount of money, usually by tanking, the only way of staying competitive is by buying hihg salary players at the last week.

Anyway, whatever the final decision, it will work itself out.

From: GM-hrudey

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240723.11 in reply to 240723.9
Date: 4/20/2013 12:07:06 PM
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Unless one wants to accumulate the same amount of money, usually by tanking, the only way of staying competitive is by buying hihg salary players at the last week.


It always amuses me when one confuses the concept of "easiest" with "only."