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From: malice
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Date: 7/21/2012 6:47:41 AM
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Really confused as to why when set up correctly (Strictly follow depth chart; no alternate players; no extra players; Let them play) STILL at times the *cough-cough* coach chooses NOT to play trainees the full 48 minutes.

If he (the coach) was sackable? He'd be outta my organisation, on his ass.

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From: Dworcus

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Date: 7/21/2012 7:05:13 AM
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I guess this is a core design feature of BB, and it's intentional.
It's part of the challenge to manage your 48 minutes for training with your 60 minutes for Game Shape. No one said it wil easy.

With experience you can get a very good idea of the minutes you'll get for each coach selection modes. Nevertheless, now and then, you'll have bad surprise. When there's a big difference in strength between the 2 team it's hard to predict when will one team will have a lead of 20+ points, same for 6 fouls or injuries. At that point the coach can mess your plan.

Even if your player are not on one of the 15 positions the coach might put them on the court. If you don't want a player to enter a game be sure to remove him from the start list at the top of the page.

From: malice

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222280.3 in reply to 222280.2
Date: 7/21/2012 7:26:26 AM
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Errr... please don't. I am well aware of the vagaries of training, and "with experience"? I've been playing the game just as long as you (slightly longer actually). Please don't talk to me like I just started.

No foul outs (particular trainee had one foul). No injuries. Every rostered player accounted for in the line-up, leaving no spare guy to take minutes away from my trainee. No rhyme nor reason to the substitution, just *is*.
If it were a solitary occurrence, fine. This is the third or fourth time it's happened this season. More than a wee bit frustrating.

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From: Dworcus

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Date: 7/21/2012 8:22:24 AM
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Relax, no offense intended, I didn't check your history, but I ve seen you are in D.II. Moreover this is not our natural language, don't infer too much of hte meaning of one word taken separately.

Yet, From your first post it's was not so clear what your were precisely asking about.
If you give a link to the games, maybe we can make a more accurate analysis

From: malice

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222280.5 in reply to 222280.4
Date: 7/21/2012 9:30:27 AM
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Completely relaxed... with you. It's just the training situation that is annoying.
Game is: (46448597)

And there is no rhyme nor reason for it... and I know that it "just happens". Annoying... but meh.

edit... trainee is Matsumoto.

Last edited by malice at 7/21/2012 9:30:56 AM

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From: Tangosz

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Date: 7/21/2012 10:14:48 AM
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Hmm, the fact that you had 9 players dressed, but the non-trainee at SF got the full 48 minutes is very odd. I assume you double checked the tactics that were actually sent.

This isn't very helpful, but when games are such blowouts like the ones you're having in some of your league games, getting trainees full 48 min is particularly tricky.

EDIT - to follow up, I think trying to ensure that any of the available backups on the bench are much lower in quality than your trainee will help prevent subbing out, and just trying to reduce running up the score can help. Maybe playing a slow offense, or even a lineup with odd positioning; e.g. lower passing guys at PG to reduce the overall offense efficiency.

Last edited by Tangosz at 7/21/2012 10:20:47 AM

From: Dworcus

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Date: 7/21/2012 11:27:47 AM
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Despite the blowout, one of your player get 48 min, thought it was not the one you wished to train.
I allready have the same pattern with 9 players , try to reduce the number of player to 8, to reduce the substitution options for the coach.

When I play a scrimmage vs a much weaker team, I set the trainee as usual at all the 3 spots for his position.
But I switch the other players out of their favorite position, for example playing the Center as Shooting Guard. Beside the trainee(s) the other are here just for game shape minutes, so their position is irrelevant.
Then I also deliberately choose a poor tactics, preferably slow tempo (often Patient). I adapt his to the perceived strength of the opposing team to delay the more as I can the moment when the score will reach 20+ points for one team.

Try to play scrimmage games vs a stronger team may help.

From: malice

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Date: 7/21/2012 6:27:33 PM
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Hmm, the fact that you had 9 players dressed, but the non-trainee at SF got the full 48 minutes is very odd. I assume you double checked the tactics that were actually sent.

Yup.
I guess I'm simply venting. I *know* "this kinda thing *happens*..." - it's just that it's *happened* to me three or four times this season. Frustrating.

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