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16980.1
Date: 2/22/2008 10:09:17 PM
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Anyone who doesn't have a bar exam in a few days wanna break down today's trade? Looks like Cleveland was the big winner to me. Power seems to be centralizing over the last few weeks--Dallas, Boston, LA, and Cleveland all look like legit contenders.

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16980.2 in reply to 16980.1
Date: 2/23/2008 2:37:53 AM
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i think for offensive help wally can be of certain value but his a on off guy .. while wallace on the other hand is a liability on offense but who gives a damn if lebron can score 35-50 pts a night!

till now i cant think of why suns pulled a marion shaq trade. . . . why cant it be marion gasol or maybe shaq and kwame . . . just thinking so far for small ball in the valley!

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16980.3 in reply to 16980.2
Date: 2/23/2008 12:09:12 PM
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Why anyone wants Shaq right now baffles me. I wish the Pacers could offload JO and Tinsley for a player or two that will be reasonably healthy and interested in playing, but I think their salaries are preventing it.

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16980.4 in reply to 16980.3
Date: 2/23/2008 1:15:22 PM
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the suns don't necessarily need shaq, but his presence will help slow down tim duncan, which is basically all the suns wanted. imagine if shaq actually dropped the weight, he could really be dangerous. he'll probably have to since the suns run all over the floor. i think the acquisition was good, but the suns have to limit his minutes; they don't need to justify the trade by playing him a lot...that won't work for anyone right out of the gate.

the cavaliers probably gave up a little too much. larry hughes and drew gooden are better players than wally and wallace. but it doesn't really matter since the trade was basically made to make lebron james happy, which it did.

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16980.6 in reply to 16980.5
Date: 2/24/2008 1:48:07 AM
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It might come back and bite them...but it isn't as if they were doing much before either. I think Wallace will do better than he was in Chicago--I'm expecting different things will be asked of him and his role will be more like what he was doing in Detroit. That said, if he blows both of his knees and hips out at the same time I won't care.

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16980.8 in reply to 16980.7
Date: 2/24/2008 3:48:26 PM
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will big ben agree to have zy start over him, or will zy accept to relinquish his (deserved) starting spot to big ben? I can't really see these two guys playing together, barring some major coaching work.

that's exactly what I didnt understand about this trade. They gave away their good PF (Gooden) and now they have 2 centers. Starting both or starting just one and Varejão starting at PF doesn't look like an improvement to me... Varejao has good energy coming off the bench but even I as a brazilian know that he is not starting 5 material... he is no Tiago Splitter...

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16980.9 in reply to 16980.5
Date: 2/24/2008 3:50:44 PM
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Wally doesn't have to guard 2's.

Plus, while he is a couple of steps slow he is very good positionally on defense. In other words, while he can be beat off the dribble the offensive player usually ends up going where Wally wants him to anyways. With the HUGE upgrade in interior defense brought by this trade he will not be a liability because he maintains solid positioning and will have help. Similarly LeBron will be able to worry less about help and increase his own defensive pressure.

I don't see this as a net loss defensively at all since they gain so much elsewhere and Wally is workable as a team defender.

That being said...I do agree that this trade was not all that much help.

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16980.10 in reply to 16980.7
Date: 2/24/2008 3:58:04 PM
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Actually I think they will play very well together. Ben performs better with another good big man on the floor so he can focus on defense and rebounding. This way he cannot easily be double teamed while rebounding and he is able to play on ball defense rather than worry about being the only helpside underneath.