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154987.1
Date: 8/23/2010 5:02:05 PM
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I to try have been training these two guys together all season, and am going to try to get all of their primary skills to proficient/prominent. I am useing a level 4 trainer. What should i train them at, and for how much longer. I am currently training ID for PF /C. is this a god Idea? I am planning to make Sante Pagnozzi (14749524) (the first one) a small forward, and the second one a center. is this a good idea?

Sante Pagnozzi (14749524)
Power Forward


Weekly salary: $ 6 004
(power forward)

DMI: 35400
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: pitiful
Driving: pitiful Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: inept Free Throw: atrocious

Experience: atrocious

Putvinas Žimontas (14868853) Power Forward


Weekly salary: $ 4 661

DMI: 48200
Age: 18
Height: 7'1" / 216 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: pitiful
Driving: atrocious Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: proficient ↑ Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: atrocious Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

Any help is appreciated.

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154987.2 in reply to 154987.1
Date: 8/23/2010 5:20:46 PM
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If you only train these two you can gain a lot from training only one position. If you are going to train them both and the first as a SF, I believe you will end up with a SF and a PF. Taking into consideration their potential you will get two decent allrounders, but not specialists, and perhaps not good as starters in the long run. They will become salary efficient though, and if/when they are not good enough for your A-team, can become great substitutes able to cover several positions. Smart or not is entirely up to your definition and playstyle.

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154987.3 in reply to 154987.1
Date: 8/23/2010 6:35:55 PM
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i would train neither nor. too low potential. which will affect badly their possible sales prices.

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154987.4 in reply to 154987.3
Date: 8/23/2010 7:02:05 PM
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Well, it depends if he intend to train them for sale or for his own team. And I have seen plenty of good allstars going for high sums, so it is not that low. If you have funds and possibility to buy and train only high potential prospects of course it would be better, but not all players on a team are NT stars. Also, the tactic of training players to be versatile have never been a strictly train-sell tactic, because you never get good money for rounded players no matter how good they perform...

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154987.5 in reply to 154987.4
Date: 8/24/2010 7:27:37 AM
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This isnt directed at anyone in particular but I always think its funny when someone tells a guy in Div 4 or 5 not to train a star or allstar player because of their potential you wont be able to use them long. a properly train star potential player can be with you all the way through div 3 and move you to div 2 in the US. Look through peoples rosters there are some there as good backups and some starters. Star potential can get his salary somewhere in the neighborhood of 33 to 40k and allstar your looking at a 40 to 65. I believe if I had a team full of those I woulda been in div 2 by now.

Rusty

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154987.6 in reply to 154987.5
Date: 8/24/2010 12:42:21 PM
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I have to agree with you there. I believe even in higher divisions it is better to train so you are able to fulfill a players potential than hunting forever for a high potential player that does not get optimal training all the way.

This is an excample of an allstar that are not even close to reaching the soft cap, and not the best weighted player. Still he works as a backup in Div I, and he even pops at age 28 with the odd minute here and there the few weeks I have to train 2 positions.

Age: 28
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: prolific
Driving: prolific ↑ Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: proficient

Last edited by Svett Sleik (U21-Scout Norge) at 8/24/2010 12:44:54 PM

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154987.7 in reply to 154987.6
Date: 8/24/2010 6:04:18 PM
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The problem with the 2 guys i see is there is no cohesion to train between the 2. they are both 18 so when he needs to stop training inside skills for the 6'4" guy and train outside skills he will still need to train the 7' guy another couple years to let him meet his full potential.

I am just now starting to train a Sf myself but kinda what I am seeing is you need to start training one a couple years after you start training and inside or an outside player. I am only in Div 3 and that is just my 2 cents but I probably know less than most.


Rusty

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154987.8 in reply to 154987.7
Date: 8/25/2010 5:21:24 PM
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I plan to train train Both of their gaurd skills at the end of the year. I will do this by playing both of them at gaurd on offense, and have them play their natural positioens on defence. (this wont be a problem because my team always wins by 40+ points.)

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154987.9 in reply to 154987.6
Date: 8/26/2010 5:15:00 AM
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This is an excample of an allstar that are not even close to reaching the soft cap, and not the best weighted player.

This is an example of a SG that did reach his soft cap...

Weekly salary: $ 59 234

DMI: 346200
Age: 22
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: tremendous Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: prodigious Handling: prominent
Driving: sensational Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: average Free Throw: strong

The only thing I would have liked is probably 2 or 3 pops in IS and passing (which if I had patience before switching to talls I could probably get). Other than that, this is an allstar player that is pretty much the backbone of my team. I believe potential is relivant to the player you wish to create. There is no point in wanting a hall of famer with the intent of training to a $30k salary.

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154987.10 in reply to 154987.9
Date: 8/26/2010 5:41:26 AM
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Very nice player. Great defence!

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154987.11 in reply to 154987.10
Date: 8/26/2010 6:31:21 AM
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If you were active on the off-site forums, you would have known his skills for a while.
*EDIT* - Spelling.

Last edited by FannyPackMan at 8/26/2010 6:31:50 AM

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