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From: Trigg
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Date: 2/1/2008 2:59:00 AM
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Hi all,

I have a trainee who is the best player in my team for now and was trained in JS for the last few weeks/months.
Although i picked a PF and a SF in the drafts I think I will keep on focusing on him (and on the SF- so I focus on my wingmans)

He got 20 right now but I am not sure which training is the best for him - he scores and scores and scores (not with the best percentage right now but he scores in crunch time like MJ or better Robert Horry ;))

So for now I am trying to get rid of his 'bad' shooting percentage:

Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: inept
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: strong Free Throw: average

Am I right when I say his Archilles heel is his bad IS atm?
He can shoot from the outside AND drive into the paint but then his bad IS doesnt 'allow' him to score.
Or should I focus on JS/JR or maybe OD?

thx 4 your help in advance!
tiri


From: Newton07

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Date: 2/1/2008 3:08:41 AM
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OD! OD! OD! :)

From: Trigg

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Date: 2/1/2008 3:21:09 AM
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OH NOOOO! - he has to score not to defend! ;)

but you are right mediocre OD is very bad :)

Edited by Tiri (2/1/2008 3:21:59 AM CET)

Last edited by Trigg at 2/1/2008 3:21:48 AM

From: Huzzel

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Date: 2/1/2008 7:31:03 AM
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if u want this player to become the most valuable player, he needs to get some Outs. Def. If u want this player to become a offensive weapon, he needs to get some outside shooting. 27% 3pt shoots is weak for an offensive SG.

respectable in Jump range is not that good for his position. I would focus on that one.
in the global forum is a quite interesting dicussion "if a guard needs IS". some say they need it for lay ups and stuff, some say they dont need it, IS is only for post up plays from the inside players, and some say they only need a little IS cause their defenders are usually very bad inside defenders. I believe inept is enough for a SG.
btw: his shooting from 2pt range is pretty good (48%)

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Well if that guy is so good, than what about this one, 19 years also

Age: 19
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: average Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: inept
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: strong Free Throw: average


From: Trigg

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Date: 2/1/2008 12:07:41 PM
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thx for your answer!

yes, his 2pt percentage is very good, the problem is his overall FG percentage - he had 6 of 20 from the arc in my last scrimmage- thats a bit too much in my opinion.
I'll try to get his JR skill up- thx 4 that

today he became prominent in JS btw :)


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Date: 2/2/2008 10:16:06 AM
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thx for your answer!

yes, his 2pt percentage is very good, the problem is his overall FG percentage - he had 6 of 20 from the arc in my last scrimmage- thats a bit too much in my opinion.
I'll try to get his JR skill up- thx 4 that

today he became prominent in JS btw



I make a wild guess here but my experience is that if JS and JR are balanced, I even dare to push this further, if JR is little higher than JS, that 3point% gets higher. I experimented with all kinds of offenses and defenses last season, and this is one of my findings. Although since I am only 1 team, this could be totally wrong, so don't quote me on it.

Offcourse there is a major thing named outside defense by the opponent what wil have a big influence as well.

If I where you, I'd train the guy in OD for a while now. Since his inside defense is not that good you will only want to play his at SG position, and then he needs his OD !!!
If you get that up a few levels to let's say at least strong, or better, you can focus on JR. Notice that with JR training you also automaticaaly will get some JS training, so would definatly stop traiing him JS!
As his JR skill comes closer to his JS skill, you should see your 3point% increase.

Anyone else have info on this?

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Date: 2/2/2008 11:49:45 AM
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hello mate... excuse my ignorance.. how can you train JR as a primary? and JS as a secondary?

I thought all the shooting regimes boosted JS with JR being a secondary....

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hm, didn't check that properly, I just assumed you must be able to train JR as a primary with some type of training...
Is there no such thing?

If not, my bad, but how can one raise JR properly then?
Ofcourse if JS is low, it is always valuable JS goes up along with JR, but what if you have a proficient Js and pitiful JR guy... it would be nice if you could just get his JR up, JS would then be much less interesting...

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Date: 2/2/2008 1:36:09 PM
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I think outside shooting trains JR at much the same speed as JS. One of my players had 2 pops in 3 weeks of outside shooting training (18yo, level 9 trainer, PG/SG) from respectable to proficient.

I'd want more data to be certain, so I can't guarantee it. It makes some sense, otherwise the outside shooting training and jump shot training types would be almost identical.