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14063.1
Date: 1/29/2008 4:16:40 PM
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Hey,

I'm not a complete noob to games like this, so I realise the importance of training in both the short term and the long term with regards to improving one's team. Having said that......

Could somebody just go over the basics......what a noob should be focusing on?

I've read the rules and it's a little bit confusing.

Some players train faster than others, if they are taller?

Younger players train faster than older ones this makes sense, so no prob there.

You can focus on 2 players as opposed to 5.....what's more beneficial?

Should I train stamina up first?


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14063.2 in reply to 14063.1
Date: 1/30/2008 3:38:28 AM
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Can anybody point me to a useful training thread.....other than the one in help and in the rules?


If you have 3 or 4 games in a week how do people rotate their players etc for training? An answer would be appreciated.

Please, thank you. Cheers.

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14063.3 in reply to 14063.2
Date: 1/30/2008 5:18:46 AM
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You will never have more than 3 games in a week. Usually this is 2 league games and one scrimmage. A game is 48 minutes long, unless there are overtimes. So during a training week there are 144 (48 x 3) minutes of playing time available for training each week.

Training is based on minutes played at a position, not on games played. A player may play more than one position in a game, so only some of his time might be credited to training. The Weekly Stats menu will help you track minutes played each week, once you have played games.

Theoretically, you could split the 144 minutes among 3 players. But assuming you want to win your league games, your best player at a position will play more than 48 minutes a week (perhaps 60 to 80 minutes in the two league games). He won't play in scrimmage. His backup then might have 16 to 36 minutes in the two league games. So he would need some more time from the scrimmage. And you would be able to get some minutes for a 3rd player, but probably not 48 minutes. You might want to develop a younger player who can benefit from some of the extra training.

There is no benefit for training purposes of playing more than 48 minutes per week, so even if the 3rd player doesn't get the full training, the other two players would not get further benefit.

You could also train a player "out of position". Most (all) of the skills used by a C are useful to a PF. So you could use one of your starting or backup PF as a 3rd C trainee.

Playing minutes are also important for Game Shape and Stamina. A player who plays between 48 minutes and 90 minutes in a week, regardless of position, will improve or maintain his game shape. If he plays too much or too little, his game shape will deteriorate. The further outside the range, the greater the loss.

A player who plays less than 48 minutes in a week, regardless of position, will have his stamina deteriorate. Again, just missing 48 won't hurt too much. Playing 0 will hurt it. Stamina can only be improved by training stamina. If a player plays more than 48 minutes, it will simply stay the same.

Because of the Game Shape and Stamina (and salary) it probably doesn't make sense to have more than 12 to 14 players on your roster. If you have more, their game shape and stamina will suffer.

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14063.4 in reply to 14063.3
Date: 1/30/2008 5:25:15 AM
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just one little correction - player needs only 24 minutes per week in order to avoid stamina decrease...

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14063.5 in reply to 14063.4
Date: 1/30/2008 5:33:01 AM
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just one little correction - player needs only 24 minutes per week in order to avoid stamina decrease...

Thanks for the correction.

For others, the stamina lost effect was implemented during Season 3, and the minutes threshold was changed. It does apply to injured players, so a player who is out several weeks (and playing 0 minutes) will return with stamina dropped.


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14063.6 in reply to 14063.3
Date: 1/30/2008 7:29:16 AM
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Thanks to everyone who replied. This is very helpful information and isl definitely helping me get to grips with the game etc. This stuff should be in the rules! :)

cheers :)

So, it looks like for individual training, that you can only reallyfully train 2 or players per week?

I'll read all that again.

If I posted some of my players skills could I get some help with cutting my squad down to 12 or 13 players?

Thanks again.

:)

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14063.7 in reply to 14063.6
Date: 1/30/2008 11:57:22 AM
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I would fire the ones with wages less 2200. I doubt that they would sell for more than 1 weeks wages, so I would not bother trying to sell them.

Then decide what you want to train, and sell anyone over 20 in those positions and buy trainees if needed.

Apart from that.....keep a bit of money for upgrading the arena, when you start filling it.

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14063.8 in reply to 14063.7
Date: 1/30/2008 1:59:52 PM
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Thanks.

The culling has begun.

I've also been adding up the skill points of each of my players, ignoring stamina and free throws...

Most of my players have a very similar number of points spread across them. My best 2 players were from the draft. Glad I signed up / logged in when I did!!

:)