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OK, so everywhere I look at the forums, I see this: "Play your player from 50 to 80 minutes and he will maintain his game shape at a good level". Good usually refers to strong+. This is the most common suggestion one can find in the forums, which in BB is taken as dogma!

Throughout history of mankind, every dogma is tested for different purposes (usually scientific). Some dogma's were ruled out as false (early Claudius Ptolemaeus's geocentric model was replaced by Copernicus's heliocentric model of the universe). Others are still under debate with no definite answer (Biblical "Adam and Eve Dogma" Vs. Darwin's "Evolution theory" about the origin of man). Well, as in the real life, here we (the unbelievers) also test the dogmas - BB dogmas. The above mentioned Game shape dogma's credibility is lost - at least in my view - after this week results. Here are my results:

This player (13591199) had respectable game shape last week.
After playing 3 matches with total of 75 minutes his current form is average!
Something is definitely wrong.

Do we still trust the Game shape dogma? I don't!

Do you?

P.S. From the manual: "Game Shape: Players will not always play equally well from week to week. The better they look in practice in a given week, they better they are likely to play in a game." Should we go back to the basis? Why not. I'm in. But, how do we translate the underlined part? How do we know if the player "looked good in a practice". How can we maintain the desirable game shape level in future?

The problem is that your sample (one player) is too small. It's basically non-existent. So, yes, I have more faith in this http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3757/formstudy.jpg study.

I agree cant judge by one player - I have a player [2809532] who played for 79 minutes last week and his GS is strong!

Lambaw

Actually his case is not the only one!
There is a thread on BB Global about this issue: (138857.1). Although I favor your position on making conclusions (a representative sample of a large group), this seems to be the one case that has the attribute: "if there is smoke, probably there is a fire" (this proverb is somewhat different in your cultures but the meaning is the same).

the problem here is your only giving us mins from one week , there is a growing theory that gs is shaped over a period of weeks which is always updating itself depending on how many mins you have been giving the player.
personally i go by the rule players must get between 96-150 mins a fortnight which always seems to keep my players gs rising to the max.

You fail to consider that there is also a random factor involved. Even if you are within that range it doesn't guarantee your player will rise/drop in GS. It just means there is a higher probability your player will rise in GS in that range but in no way is guaranteed. If you look at the analysis provided in:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3757/formstudy.jpg

You will notice that even some guys that are in the "optimal range" decreased in GS but not as much as those that actually rise in GS. There are random factors and you can not look at just a few players and your sample size is not big enough to try infer the population from it.

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 4/4/2010 10:15:05 PM