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Date: 9/1/2009 4:02:46 AM
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Hi,I am playing my first finals game today with disadvantage...My question is,should I use princeton or motion against a 2-3 zone..I've played mostly princeton during the seazon but both worked pretty well...My 3 perimeter players all have decent driving and outside shooting and my PF is good for his position,while my C is a very good inside scorer and rebounder...

So,what do you think??

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107606.2 in reply to 107606.1
Date: 9/1/2009 7:27:27 AM
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run and gun.

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107606.3 in reply to 107606.1
Date: 9/1/2009 8:23:15 AM
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I would do a RunNGun (Like SplitJ Said) or Motion. Personally I'd try motion as you already lost to him while putting in more effort. Motion should help increase your defense by slowing the pace down.

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107606.4 in reply to 107606.3
Date: 9/1/2009 8:28:01 AM
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I am a much better team than I was back then...He isn't..Run 'n gun is too risky,don't you think??

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107606.5 in reply to 107606.3
Date: 9/1/2009 9:38:24 AM
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Motion should help increase your defense by slowing the pace down.


I don't know if you realise this, but motion doesn't affect your defense at all... it's an offensive tactic.

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Date: 9/1/2009 9:38:58 AM
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What makes it risky? Choosing between motion and RnG comes down to are your players better at driving or passing.

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107606.7 in reply to 107606.1
Date: 9/1/2009 9:39:31 AM
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I would go with either Run n' Gun or Motion since they are both outside based?

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107606.8 in reply to 107606.5
Date: 9/1/2009 11:30:53 AM
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Actually wrong.
Motion is a slower pace offense. While it does not increase your defensive stats, it results in fewer shots by you and your opponent. This means a lower score. On the other hand, it means your team uses more passes and last second shots, decreasing your shot percentage.
In whole, I think Motion cancels out its own benefits.

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Date: 9/1/2009 1:36:33 PM
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Actually wrong.
Motion is a slower pace offense. While it does not increase your defensive stats, it results in fewer shots by you and your opponent. This means a lower score. On the other hand, it means your team uses more passes and last second shots, decreasing your shot percentage.
In whole, I think Motion cancels out its own benefits.


Actually, wrong too.

Motion gives you less number of possessions due the lower pace, but it gives you more efficiency and effectiveness, because you get to have better possessions. It also has to do with the rebound factor. If you have less rebound skills than your opponent, you should go with Motion, because less number of possessions mean less number of shots, and, less the number of shots, less the number of rebound, and you are lowering that advantage of your opponent.

Also, Motion give the oportunity to your inside player to get more shots, and the outside players will not try so many threes, and they would try with a Run and Gun offense ;)

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107606.10 in reply to 107606.9
Date: 9/1/2009 1:56:05 PM
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Unless your players are very good at creating shots, relative to their abilities to make shots, I agree with the point that Motion wil result in a lot of last second attempts, and decrease your overall shooting percentage. The reason for this is that with a faster paced offense, such as run and gun, your players will tend to shoot as soon as they get a decent look. In a slower paced offense, such as Motion, your players will tend to pass the ball around until they get a great look; if your team is bad at creating great looks, the shot clock will run down more frequently, and slow pace will result in many extra last second heaves (compared to a fast paced offense).

As most teams have better scoring skills than shot creating skills, I think that most teams are better off playing fast paced tactics.

It is sometimes argued that if your opponent has a better team, playing slow paced tactics can help keep the game closer (due to fewer possessions), and give the weaker team a better chance of winning due to luck. This is also something to consider when picking your tactics.

Last edited by The Mogul at 9/1/2009 1:59:10 PM

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107606.11 in reply to 107606.10
Date: 9/1/2009 3:34:34 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys,but the original question was princeton or motion??I didn't ask for run 'n gun although I understand what you mean regarding the pace...Anyways,I tried princeton and lost in OT...I think my team is overall better,I just can't find a way to win this guy...
Here is the boxscore of the game (15388926) ,feel free to make any suggestions for Game 2

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