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From: LA-Vecx
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Date: 03/08/2020 10:03:59
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Good afternoon folks.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for giving me another chance to lead the NT for the next few seasons. I was determined to create stability for the NT and if you are willing to work with me, create some momentum of training and development towards the future. We have some holes in our team but I would like to work with managers to develop the new breed of NT players for the future.

Please connect with me and feel free to answer the poll.

Poll:  What would you like to see from the NT?

Young players used to increase experience
Older players used to get results
Winning at the expense of youth development
Developing a team for victory in 6 seasons time

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Date: 03/08/2020 13:17:08
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I went with developing new team, since im pretty much done with Wayne and gained alot of valuable expierence while training him, im down to train another NT star :)

From: Elmacca

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Date: 03/09/2020 12:14:12
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This poll is a bit weird... Isn't your job to protect the NT ranking while we as club managers develop the players??? The idea that everyone over 27 is going to be dropped from the NT so that the current 24-26 year olds can have more experience when they are 30+ and (maybe) make a deeper run in the NT competitions (while overcoming a poor draw due to a bad ranking) strikes me as a little bit insane.

What about all the seasons that have been put into developing the 27+ years old players??? Thanks, but your time to shine is over before it had a chance to begin. That's kind of cruel - this is a game and getting a player into the NT represents success for a lot of managers who can't quite put a winning team together but love training.

If you want to do this kind of thing, run the NT as if it were a club with a 6 season plan - then run on it as an election platform next time - then everyone knows where they stand and what they are voting for. And I'll stand against you on a platform of picking the best players in the best game shape to achieve the highest ranking over the next 2 seasons.


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From: LA-Vecx

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Date: 03/09/2020 12:22:32
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I think you’ve swung to an incorrect conclusion based on the detail.

My efforts to develop a team would be to prioritise where possible gaining experience for younger players and work closely with training managers.

If I was to make this about just winning for 2 seasons then I will keep the old players on the team longer and use their experience at the expense of younger players.

Asking the community for their feedback on this is perfectly reasonable!

From: Elmacca

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Date: 03/09/2020 15:53:41
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I agree, but that's not what the poll says.

From: Elmacca

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Date: 03/09/2020 16:00:14
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You were elected for 2 seasons on a platform of stability. You're the perfect candidate for that - but then you really should let someone else have a go (not me).

Your poll seems to be fishing for a broader mandate.
If you're not looking to make a radical change, what's the point of the poll? The format of the poll calls for one answer, the options are not mutually exclusive. I could quite happily formulate a statement that easily includes 3 of those 4 options.

Scrap the poll, it's disappointing, disingenuous and discombobulating.

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From: LA-Vecx

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Date: 03/09/2020 16:11:43
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Oh quit being so dramatic and judgemental.

You know the team is in safe hands, i'm now happy to set the team up so that whoever comes in can get a 4 season run with players that are ready to charge for a win. And judging by the poll that is what the majority in the English community want me to do so hey, i'll crack on and ignore the critics who put words in my mouth that I never said...!


From: Elmacca

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Date: 03/09/2020 16:25:08
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Your words, your stupid poll!!!

Stop sulking that I called you out.

Anyway, moving on, good luck 🤞
Looking forward to a cracking NT season or two.



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Date: 03/10/2020 11:13:22
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I tend to agree with Elmacca on this.

1) some of the options are unclear as to how they'd translate into practice. I'm not clear what 'youth development' would mean really. There is no development from playing NT games other than extra Exp and that's of questionable value compared to skills and even hidden attributes.

2) unless otherwise stated you'd assume the NT manager will try his/her best to achieve the best possible results with the talent pool available. I agree with Elmacca that if this was not the case it should have been outlined before the election so people who wanted something else could field a candidate.

I can respect a NT manager who TIEs every game and does not qualify for further rounds even though I disagree with this strategy, as it often fails but may pay off big, if a number of things go right. However playing a weaker team on purpose is another thing entirely.

Also, playing young players so that 6 seasons down the line they will have higher than average Experience is a weird choice which involves a lot of guesswork. What if the players at 24-25 who will play and get experience in the NT won't be the best available when they are in their prime 4-5 seasons later? Things happen, the players may not be trained as well as others in that period, may get injured, their GS may be generally poor.

If the idea is to train 6-10 monsters for the NT in 10 seasons so that they complement each other (think about the Sweden and Germany NTs with elite shot blockers), that's different, but in that case I'd contend a 6 seasons plan may be ineffective.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 03/10/2020 17:37:58