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125704.27 in reply to 125704.22
Date: 12/30/2009 17:41:05
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teams have chosen to create players who can defend the paint but who are hopeless outside of it (i.e., a typical top division center might be around tremendous ID but pitiful PD). If the other team insists upon playing two such players defensively, then a team with 5 jump shooters will have a major advantage, because the defense can't cover them all


I understand what you are saying but this is not simply the "choice" of bb managers to create monolithic players as I think current training choices as well as how player abilities are originally created by the game per position preclude to a large extent the training of outside skills for big men or inside skills for guards.

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Date: 12/30/2009 17:55:49
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I like this example... I found it in the help forum discussion: (17853603).

Flow about the same, strength of the inside attack is better than the strength of the outside attack, yet the inside offense gets shut down.


don't forget that the winning team have home court, better enthusiam(ok thats in the rating), and on PF/C two starters with 350k salary against 210 of the loosing team.

And the outside attack for the loosing team works weaker, with better match ups. And i know the teams better then the one who try to use it as an example for their theorys.

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Date: 12/30/2009 18:04:26
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I so agree with u man. When i play run and gun my C is getting 4-6 shots. When i play LI u can see the results...

Nash is arguably the best shooter in NBA and somebody can make a case that he is the best ever. (tell me how many players do u know who shoots 50-40-90)? Still he avs 9+ assists for so many years. What about AI? big time chucker who at his 34 couldnt accept lesser role than being a real PG or 6nth man? Again the real game logic has so many holes. They have to review that again.

Edit:I am not asking a pure simulation. Just equal chances for every 1 of us, training big or small. Real life argument has failed for sure.

Edit 2: Real game he said. Why then the biggest busts on draft history where the big men? Darko? Kwame? Olowokandi? Sam Bowie? On the real game the NBA scout/coaches etc saying that u cant teach the height. How many trades on the NBA have been with big man/guard with the C being the better player? Again BB-Charles u r argument is so weak.

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Date: 12/30/2009 18:40:43
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Hi everyone!

Just a little réflexion about the different attack's tactics!
At the begining of season11, we look in french ( also in the world), that the run&gun or motion are favour!

Just a example ( same enthousiasm for the 2 team).. but there are a lot of example in your league

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Maybe the "Offensive Flow" is a possibility so...

What is your position? Thanks


I didn't read everything anyway after the changes in the GE for sure outside attack is the best tactic (as inside attack was much better before the changes in the GE); offensive flow high could be a solution to increase the power of inside attack but in this case you need a wonderful starting five in all 5 positions

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Nash is arguably the best shooter in NBA and somebody can make a case that he is the best ever. (tell me how many players do u know who shoots 50-40-90)? Still he avs 9+ assists for so many years.


Show me one single player in BB that is trained in a Nash-like skillset and then we'll discuss his numbers. I think the only one that might be close is the awesome trained guy from thenewchuckd, but still that one isn't Nash-like good.

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Date: 12/30/2009 21:31:13
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I think the only one that might be close is the awesome trained guy from thenewchuckd, but still that one isn't Nash-like good.


Who is this thenewchuckd guy? We don't talk about him anymore since he shipped off to Bermuda... And the next time you talk about him, you will be drowning in paperwork from our lawyers. ;-)

Anyhow, I once thought that Wendon was the best player in BB but there is a guy playing for the France NT who is better. And many others are coming up who will pass him.

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125704.35 in reply to 125704.24
Date: 12/30/2009 21:48:00
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So basically, if I understand what you are saying, is that you just need uber inside players to make an inside offense work in the new engine?

Anyhow, your post goes to a potential solution: balance the salary impact of inside skills. Make it so that high level guards cost as much salary wise as high level PFs and Cs. To me, this is a no-brainer, since inside players take a much shorter period of time to train, anyways.

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Date: 12/30/2009 21:51:50
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don't forget that the winning team have home court, better enthusiam(ok thats in the rating), and on PF/C two starters with 350k salary against 210 of the loosing team.

And the outside attack for the loosing team works weaker, with better match ups. And i know the teams better then the one who try to use it as an example for their theorys.


As I said, maybe they are not the best examples, maybe they are. On the other hand, I'm still waiting for the many examples you promised where you had great results with a look inside against a "9" outside d.

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125704.37 in reply to 125704.25
Date: 12/30/2009 23:23:22
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Lets talk about real game then. Whats the last great PG that has won a ring? Magic.


I'm probably going to be banned and cast into the fires of hell, but Isiah won two since Magic.

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