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29720.1
Date: 05/09/2008 13:19:46
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It seems like luck is a bit too much involved with the process. What pro basketball team really just picks players out of the blue without knowing much about them.

I shouldnt complain really because I have been doing well in the leagues I am placed. But when I started looking at what players who had finished above me had gotten, it seems as if I had gotten hosed. I had the luck of having a friend placed in the same division/league that I was in. He took second I believe and when it came time to draft day he was ecstatic about his draft and I was left in the dust. Keep in mind we had spent the exact same amount on scouting all year. He had finished higher than me and somehow I had an unbelievably poor draft. When we came down to looking at how he had done well and I had done poorly, we boiled it down to he just got lucky with his picks.

I can understand a team catching a 6th round miracle ie a tom brady, but thats what once every 10 years if you are lucky? Their needs to be a re-evaluation of the draft process that doesnt involve luck which allows teams who are finsihing second in a league to get a blue chipper and team that finishes 4th to get the shaft.

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29720.2 in reply to 29720.1
Date: 05/09/2008 13:23:23
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Not that the draft is a perfect system, but it's not perfect in the pros either.

Check out the 1995 draft:

(http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1995_draft/scout/pf.ht...)

I bet the Warriors wouldn't pick Smith if they could do it over.

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29720.3 in reply to 29720.2
Date: 05/09/2008 13:26:50
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I bet the Warriors knew how old and how tall Smith was when they picked him.

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29720.4 in reply to 29720.3
Date: 05/09/2008 13:28:07
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If this was a baseball sim, I'd mention Miguel Tejada, Cubans in general, etc.

But it's not, so I'll shut up.

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Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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29720.5 in reply to 29720.4
Date: 05/09/2008 13:32:30
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Even if it were, I doubt that a one year age difference would mean the player loses half his value in real life.

It's pointless to keep making comparisons to real life sports.

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29720.6 in reply to 29720.5
Date: 05/09/2008 13:35:45
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It's pointless to keep making comparisons to real life sports.


Isn't BB based on a real life sport?

Sure, there are many realism-baeed things you have to forego in the name of playability, but you can't completely ignore what happens in real life.

If that were the case, I'd have a team full of Borgs and Thetans who scored by dropping the ball from the rafters. (please don't try to make sense of that, I don't understand it either)

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A CT? Really?
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Any three for me
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29720.7 in reply to 29720.6
Date: 05/09/2008 13:37:31
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Very loosely based.

And I can't believe you don't see the difference between the training aspects in a math-based game and the ones in real life.

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29720.8 in reply to 29720.6
Date: 05/09/2008 13:38:19
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Of course it is. OTOH, one must accept that a part of it will never have a counterpart in real life, no matter how you spin it.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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29720.9 in reply to 29720.7
Date: 05/09/2008 13:41:18
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And I can't believe you don't see the difference between the training aspects in a math-based game and the ones in real life.


That's one of the things I was referring to when I said that not everything could be realism-based, since you're sacrificing too many gameplay considerations.

Were you expecting me to spell out everything I meant by that?

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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29720.10 in reply to 29720.2
Date: 05/09/2008 13:46:21
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haha well joe smith wasnt that bad as a rookie.
who could have known that KG becomes such an impressive player over the years.

And I think the BB drafts are quiet ok for only its 4th season... sure it can improve but in my opinion it is one of the most exciting parts of a season and a reason for that is that u cant be 100% sure what u get even if u get a 5 Star A+ with Potential 5 Stars :)
Ok, the difference between those 5 stars was a bit huge but sometimes u are lucky and sometimes not. U cant always win otherwise it will get boring soon .)






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29720.11 in reply to 29720.9
Date: 05/09/2008 13:47:24
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Well, since the thread is about the draft, and the draft means young players, which means trainees, I really don't know why any other aspect is relevant.