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I ain't a novice at this & consider that the financial side of the game to be my forte.... but I'm beating myself up over arena attendances/income this season.

I haven't change prices (thru being lazy & forgetting** this is not this season but over the last couple) - have a better record in the league this season than last, beat no2 in a decent cup final (to retain)..... my attendance yesterday (& this season) is a joke.

You can't tell me that the formulas have not been tweaked.

I sell out against Venemous Scorpions who have sold off since their hey day... if prices are so sensitive to position & ranking then I would expect to get a full house against my closest rival (Stunners - but.... 16,030 at home to the current champions & 1st placed Big 8 team?)

Date Opponent Bleachers Lower Tier Courtside Seats Luxury Boxes Total Game Type
24/12/2011 Miyazaki Freeters 9882 3696 480 44 14102
15/12/2011 Sapporo Fighters 14281 4400 500 48 19229 Cup
13/12/2011 Fire Country Trail Blazers 13423 4218 500 45 18186
08/12/2011 Baikinman 10623 3449 419 37 14528 Cup
07/12/2011 Venomous Scorpions 15072 4400 500 50 20022 B3
06/12/2011 Stunners 11504 3983 498 45 16030
29/11/2011 Umi says 13607 4195 497 44 18343
26/11/2011 Kitakyushu 13185 4196 500 45 17926
23/11/2011 Tragedy Team 15072 4400 500 50 20022 B3
19/11/2011 Kotets 11867 4024 498 45 16434

Or am I imagining having worse seasons, same prices & banking $630k a home game??? If so, tell me.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 12/24/2011 21:17:25

You have been active in the transfer market, you lost the matchday before yesterday's match, you lost the matchday before the Stunners match, and you forgot to mension this, case closed...

Do you guys talk between yourselves in Japan? Making a bug report about the same issue talked here (204833.1)? Both your low attendance games are after a loss. First low attendance was against opposite side 1-st, after loosing to opposite side 3-rd. This time you were playing opposite side 6-th, after loosing to opposite side 5-th + you have medled with your roster. Even better, you might of even believed Wolph (he was suggesting pr-manager level has no effect) and switched your pr-manager to lower level:)
And no Japan is not singled out!

Please.... I'm talking about figures for the whole season, highlighted by yesterday.

And as I said... this is not a 'snap' rant based on 1 figure.. I went 18-4 last sesason & had a much higher average attendance than I enjoy now.

Yeah..I brought this up and people called me crazy...It seems like this season(it wasn't like this last season) it is all about the game before. Even if you are on a 15 game WIN streak and you lose game 16, the fans will stay away for game 17 even though you are 15-1(which is plain stupid). but it is the BB way. I went from 19,326 to 15,129 to 17,619....It's so bad this season that I went out and bought a National Appeal PR guy..if you lose at home it really doesn't matter as long as your next game is on the road you can still make up by winning the road game before the next home game...I lost 2 in a row and then beat Wolph at his house and gained 65K in attendance(486K to 551K).
Here is an example from last season...I lost to Stunners on September 3rd and it was my 3rd loss of the season and my next Home Game..(36548585)...that is 18,888 I made 578K and it was only a drop of about 1200 to 20,080 from the Home Game before, I made 594K that game. I can live with that...but this season, I was undefeated at 7-0...( I did get knocked out of the cup early but the Home game before I had 19,170 fans come. I lose to you(Sharman) and my next home game is 14,482....That is a huge drop for a 8-1 team. How would fans lose faith in a 7-1 team that just got beat by a BB3 winner....It did get tweaked and I am not crazy.

@Superfly Guy and Yellow Cake: There was no tweak in that code, I assure you. The code is the same at least for the last 3 seasons (I can't be sure for the period before that). Losing an away game will have the most influence on your home game attendance even if you had all wins before that. It's not a perfect system, I agree, but it's the way things work for a long time.

I agree, but it's the way things work for a long time.

Come on....That is not the truth...I gave you an example from season 17...OK..here is two from season 16...(33242742)....I lost this game at home and 20,079 fans showed up...I was lucky this season to have back to back games so my next game was at home..(33242749)..as you can see..I came off a 20 point loss and 20,012 fans still showed up...so let's do the math..I lost 67 fans because of that loss...this season only 14,000 fans would have come..big difference..OK..The second game I was playing a very good team so how about this example...(35677989)..I lost the cup final to Sharman and my next home game was against the 8th place team...(33242791) ..as you can see, 20,045 fans still came out to watch the smack down. So how is this the same as this season? This is why people are bringing this stuff up. It has changed no matter how many members of BB's Friendly staff says it hasn't. I mean come on already. If this was a measure you guys implemented to stop tanking teams from filling arenas then just come clean and admit it..It wouldn't be the first time the BB's did something with out asking the members what we think.

I think the only logical answer is: You are singled out (or all of Japan)... :D

Why would we lie to you? What's in it for us? Why do you think we work against you? (Please don't answer those, they are rhetorical questions)
If I say that we didn't change anything, then that's what happened. You can't predict the exact number of fans on the next game because there are too many things that affect it. And yes, we want to keep it that way, it's designed that way, it's part of the game. If you knew how everything works, the fun part of the game would be gone.
I guess admitting that your theory (that we changed something) is wrong is out of the question, so I'm going to say this: I can't prove to you that we didn't change anything without showing you the code (which is out of the question) so you'll just going to have to trust me on what I say. I'm here to help you and I don't arbitrarily choose on opposite opinion and lie, I base my statements on facts.
Bear one more thing in mind: I will not let this thread become a long discussion.

OK...I am on a 4 game win streak and my attendance goes down tonight...Now I really don't believe you. I even lowered my ticket prices...and still less fans showed up. I showed you my facts from season 16 and 17...something has changed with the way attendance is calculated and it is easy to see..

Again you accuse me of lying. Have you not read what I said before? I have no intention of repeating myself. Choose your next words wisely because I'm not going to tolerate such accusations again. Read the rules of the bugs forum and comply or your posts will be deleted, no matter how right you think you are.